[nagdu] Odd encounter second edition

Sun Aug 15 17:19:23 UTC 2010

Hi Steve,
I have a simple solution for when people whistle or whatever to gain my 
dog's attention. I used to ask them to stop but I just got laughed at. So, 
now I say nothing to them and correct my dog for responding to the sounds. I 
treat these idiots like they wwere squirrels and correct my dog for the 
distraction.  When these people see that my dog doesn't respond to them, 
they get bored and quit.

The correction is very soft, "Leave it" and the idiots usually don't even 
hear it.  they just see that my dog doesn't respond to their stupid noises. 
It works! LOL!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Johnson" <stevencjohnson at centurytel.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Odd encounter second edition

> Tami
>
> Your comments just brought to mind an issue that I have had occur at least 
> 2
> times in the past 3 weeks.  The first was when I was on the bus and going
> over to see my girlfriend and her guide.  There were some younger adults 
> in
> the back of the bus purposely making short whistles trying to gain Misha's
> attention.  After a few more whistles, I turned and said that if you are
> whistling at my dog I would ask that you please stop as she is working, 
> and
> thanked them.  About 15-20 seconds later it again resumed at which point I
> quickly turned and stated, that if you continue to conduct yourselves in
> this manner, I will ask the bus driver to have you removed.  Furthermore I
> am a member on our Transit Board, and I will further see that you are
> removed.  And as a special point of interest, it is against the law in the
> State of Wisconsin to harass or interfere with a service dog team, and you
> are doing both which you can be fined for.  They shut up, and I left at 
> the
> next stop.  This again happened just a week ago when some younger adults
> were meowing in the back of the bus.  At first, it sounded like a baby, 
> and
> it was very difficult to distinguish. When it would occur, the small group
> of about 3-4 would laugh.  They exited, and I was uncertain what it 
> actually
> was.  I confirmed with the driver what happened and he too believed they
> were provoking my guide.  At a meeting this past Tuesday of our ADA 
> Advisory
> Committee, and I being the Chair, I presented this and we moved forth a
> motion to have management implement a policy not only addressing the new
> definition of a service dog, but adding the clause about harassment and
> interference of a service dog team can result in immediate removal by the
> driver.  The transit company will be working with the drivers to further
> educate them on this as they are indeed wonderful drivers, look out for 
> our
> best interest as customers using dog guides, and have a vested interest in
> such issues.  We are really pushing for a no-tolerence policy that goes
> beyond this type of behavior when anyone is facing such harassment,
> interference  or verbal comments that are perceived as being harmful or
> hurtful to the individual.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:21 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Odd encounter
>
> Sean,
>
> It does help when the driver has his/her eye on the ball.  /smile/  Still,
> it can be very disconcerting in the short time before things get sorted 
> out.
> /smile/
>
> One thing I have learned is to wait in the back of the line to get on if
> things are crowded, so that I don't get all confused by the people moving
> around where I'm trying to sit down.  It used to be that when people would
> play the "after you" game, I would thank them politely and get on, which
> would work fine unless there was something strange going on at the front 
> of
> the bus that I had to deal with -- like somebody trying to pet my dog or
> getting down in her face to see if she would shake hands...  Good grief!
>
> So now, I smile swweetly and say, Thanks, you go ahead please.  /lol/ 
> This
> doesn't stop surprising things from happening when it's time to sit down,
> but it does give me a better chance of not being entirely baffled and
> confuddled.  Just mostly.  /grin/
>
> Most of our bus drivers here do a pretty good job of watching what's going
> on, so when it's just obnoxious conversation, I get the impression they 
> make
> sure this innocent little lamb doesn't get off the bus and go home with 
> the
> drunk guy.  In fact, with one, the driver advised me to go to a different
> stop, which I was happy to do as my new best friend staggered off all by 
> his
> lonesome.  Sheesh!  I agreed with the bus driver wholeheartedly, and she 
> was
> great about telling me how the next stop related to the stop I had planned
> to get off on and how the streets between were laid out.  I thought that 
> was
> really great of her and told her so!
>
> Anyway, glad your oddness was short and that Franklin was untroubled by 
> the
> crazy man.  /smile/  I love how you describe the look on his face.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sean Moore
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:40 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Odd encounter
>
> The driver saw that guy was a little off. That and he was hitting on one
> lady who lives in my apartment complex, with her husband right there. 
> THough
>
> I think he didn't pay attention at all or he was asleep.
>
> But the drunk was kicked off the bus after like 3 stops.
>
> Yours,
> Sean Moore &
> Southeastern Guide Dog, Franklin
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