[nagdu] a couple questions

Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1987 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 6 15:29:06 UTC 2010


Let me point out that I had similar issues with my current dog that I had with my first dog.  GDB fixed them, and I seriously doubt that TSE would have done much iif anything at all.
Jordan

"Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com> wrote:

>Jordan: I am sorry for your experiences with The Seeign Eye. If I can
>say so, you are one of the very few people that I've heard that has
>had any complaints about them. Sure there were those that might have
>complained during class about an instructor or how things were being
>run, but you're one of the few graduates I've heard complain about
>them. For those thinking about Seeing Eye, let me again point out that
>Jordan is an individual who has had bad experiences with Seeing Eye.
>Not to diminish his experiences. I have had nothing but good things to
>say about the school as others have. They have been attentive, have
>called me when a trainer was in my area, and have done their best to
>customize my training to meet my individual needs. Even going to a
>farm to let my dog see horses, when I was doing active horseback
>riding. I'm told that this was a first for them, or at least going to
>this particular farm was. Anyway, I may not agree with everything they
>do, just as I dont' agree with everything that the NFB does, but
>Seeing Eye have been doing it longer than anyone else in the U.S. and
>they've gotten quite good at it over the last 80 some odd years. I
>know that they're always there and that I can always call them if I
>have an issue. I like the way they do business by not calling me all
>the time or not constantly requesting medical updates on my dog, as
>I've heard some schools do. Seeing Eye may not be perfect in
>everything they do, but they treat their graduates as individuals and
>adults. AS someone else said, you have to tell them about an issue
>before they will come out. However, if they didn't come out right
>away, then that's when self advocacy, calling the school repeatedly
>until the issue is resolved, and perhaps even checking on lissts like
>this come in handy.
>
>Just my humble thoughts,
>Wayne
>
>On 12/6/10, Jordan Gallacher <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> TSE never did that with me, and there are two trainers that would be
>able or
>> have been in my area.    Also, the only thing I got out of them when
>I
>> called them about issues was pretty much that can't be happening
>don't call
>> us.
>> Jordan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf
>> Of Nimer Jaber
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:07 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Jordan,
>>
>> Without starting a big debate, I just want to take the time to defend
>> TSE a little bit:
>> They have provided me with very timely support every time I requested
>> it. I do have to call them to let them know that I'm having a
>problem,
>> so they don't somehow guess that you might have a problem. Also, they
>> make calls to graduates when they've got a trainer out in the field
>near
>> me, just to make sure that I am doing OK and to make sure that I
>don't
>> require anything. In fact, I think that the support grads receive was
>> one of the biggest things I looked at when choosing a school and
>> everyone I've talked to has ranked them very high in this area.
>>
>> Also, I know people are busy with their lives, and TSE seems to
>> recognize this as well, which is why I think they're allowing grads
>who
>> have been there before to complete training in a shorter period of
>time,
>> and even complete a home training that takes place over two weeks or
>so.
>> I felt that a day or two could have been cut out of their program,
>like
>> the days spent walking around a path twice a day, the same path for
>> three days or so at the beginning of class, although I do recognize
>that
>> many need more time to get comfortable walking with their dogs before
>> freelance begins. But TSE tries their best to individualize classes,
>or
>> at least in the class I was in with our class leader and the
>instructor
>> I was with especially. I got a lot of work on campuses, in large city
>> environments such as New York, in shopping malls and hospitals, and
>even
>> at the air port. I'm sorry that you did not receive the instruction
>you
>> were hoping you would receive, and instead of giving up on the school
>I
>> probably would've worked with them to improve their program, or at
>least
>> give them some things that may make the program better with the
>> evaluations at the end of the program.
>>
>> Note: I am not an employee of TSE, and my only affiliation with them
>is
>> being a proud Seeing Eye dog handler. So I don't want anyone to think
>> that by this email and any others that I am doing this because I was
>> requested to do so by the school.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Nimer J
>>
>> On 12/05/2010 11:53 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
>>> I personally would not go to The Seeing Eye.  There is virtually no
>> support
>>> after you leave with your dog.  I retired my first dog because of
>the
>>> problems I was having, which became pretty serious, and I went to
>GDB.
>> GDB
>>> is a much better school than TSE.  Support is much better after
>leaving
>> with
>>> your dog, and the classes are only two or three weeks depending on
>which
>>> campus you end up going to.  The training is not much different, but
>at
>> GDB
>>> you have more opportunity to work in areas that you are in the most.
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf
>>> Of Terra Syslo
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:44 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>> Hi. I am in the process to start applying to guide dog schools, and
>I
>> think
>>> I have it narrowed down to 2 or 3 schools I'm looking at. Can anyone
>give
>> me
>>> some information as to your experiences with Leader Dogs for the
>Blind?
>> I'm
>>> also considering GDF and maybe Seeing Eye. Thanks for any info.
>>>
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