[nagdu] a couple questions

Wed Dec 8 09:43:55 UTC 2010

Jordan,
    If you were to have a child, would you agree to allow the government to 
monitor your parental skills for the first year "to make sure nothing major 
develops"? What does this say about your capacity as a blind person?

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions


> If you really think about it, the way GDB does things is better.  They
> retain ownership for the first year and monitor things to make sure 
> nothing
> major develops.  After the first year, you can choose to take ownership of
> the dog or let GDB retain ownership.  Keep in mind too that GDB is more
> helpful when issues of being denied access are involved such as one of the
> universities in this state had if you did not register the dog with the
> university.  TSE wouldn't touch that issue with a 10 foot pole and said it
> was perfectly legal.  GDB took care of it since this group nor TSE did. 
> If
> you haven't figured it out, I give all my high marks to GDB and all low
> marks to TSE.  I give full support to GDB and no support for TSE.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> Indeed. I remember reading in some book about Seeing Eye that no
> person has ever been denied a Seeing Eye dog due to lack of funds or
> inability to pay. Frankly, I would rather pay something than getting a
> dog like that for nothing, since this would help me to feel more
> responsible for what happens to the dog. Rather than viewing it as a
> "gift." Plus, there's that whole ownership thing, and the fact that as
> soon as I give the check to the school, the dog is mine!
>
> Wayne
>
> On 12/6/10, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> About that fee at TSE. They work with you if you are tight on money.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>> The training was pretty good at TSE.  I find that GDB to be quicker and
> you
>> get the same information and much more customization to your training is
>> done.  You also don't have the application fee if you are tight on money.
>> GDB works really well with fitting into your schedule, and since the
> classes
>> are only two weeks long, at the Oregon campus and three weeks long, at 
>> the
>> California campus, there are more classes per month which gives you an
>> opportunity to pick the best time to go.  I can't say anything bad about
> GDB
>> because there isn't anything bad to say about the school.  It's all good
>> unlike what I obviously say about TSE.
>> Jordan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Nimer Jaber
>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I Applied to all those schools. I only attended Seeing Eye. GDB would've
>> been my second pick. Leaderdog has a very lengthy app and I believe they
>> require six references and a video for their app, although I could be
>> wrong about that. Also, I've known a few leaderdog teams, and they
>> didn't work as well as, in my experience with knowing people, GDB and
>> TSE. GDB's staff were extremely kind and their app process was very fast
>> and smooth. TSE's a good school. My issues with them were as a result of
>> issues with one or two staff members, and not the instructors, the
>> training, the accommodations, or anything else about the school. The
>> stay is very comfortable, the app process was very smooth, and the
>> training was excellent and very individualized. Abbie is a great guide
>> and more importantly a better dog. Any times I've had slight issues with
>> navigation (most if not all were my fault), the support I received both
>> over the phone and in person was very quick and always solved my
>> problems in one or two calls. I've never needed more than one visit from
>> an instructor to resolve a problem. I was able to get help from an
>> instructor navigating a college campus as well as some pretty busy and
>> complicated intersections near my place when I moved to Austin. So if
>> you want my recommendation, I'd pick TSE because I haven't found anyone
>> who has attended there and has had any major issues that were
>> unresolvable. If you don't wish to, from what I've heard and observed,
>> GDB is an excellent choice as well, and they do have two campuses, so
>> you will get to choose whether you wish to work in a more populated area
>> or in a more country setting, although from what I hear they still work
>> hard, as TSE does, to put graduates in all types of different
> environments.
>>
>> Thanks, and hope this helps.
>>
>> Nimer J
>>
>> On 12/05/2010 11:44 PM, Terra Syslo wrote:
>>> Hi. I am in the process to start applying to guide dog schools, and I
>> think
>>> I have it narrowed down to 2 or 3 schools I'm looking at. Can anyone 
>>> give
>> me
>>> some information as to your experiences with Leader Dogs for the Blind?
>> I'm
>>> also considering GDF and maybe Seeing Eye. Thanks for any info.
>>>
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