[nagdu] a couple questions

Wed Dec 8 15:33:50 UTC 2010

Jordan,

Could you please cut and paste and send to the list, the place in the ADA 
where service dogs are mentioned?

thanks much!
Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

> Dan,
> Actually,
> Service animals are mentioned.  Where did Marrion get that?  I have 
> written
> papers and give speeches on guide dog use, and have made reference to the
> ADA several times.  I'm really getting annoyed with Marrion's attitude, 
> and
> get this, there was a major ADA violation at one of the universities in my
> state, and he refused to do a thing.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:43 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> Dan,
>    Actually, service animals are not mentioned in the Act itself. Title II
> (which applies to public entities) and Title III (which applies to private
> entities that provide public accommodations) refers to the entities
> requirements to "modify policies, practices, and procedures" to allow an
> individual with a disability the right to use "auxiliary aids and 
> services".
>
> A service animal is like a wheelchair, walker, or some other auxiliary aid
> or service.
>    The United States legal system is built on case law. the decisions of
> the Courts defines the law, not necessarily the written word. In the case 
> of
>
> Hawaii, the Court has determined that they are within their rights to 
> impose
>
> the rules they have established. Changing this case law will be up to a
> higher court with jurisdiction.
>
> fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> What about Title III? If I'm not mistaken that's the one talking about
>> access for guide and service dogs?
>>
>> Dan W.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:17 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Jordan,
>>    Though I am not an attorney, I do not feel Hawaii's rules are contrary
>> to the ADA. Can you give us specific provisions of Hawaii's rules and
>> which
>> provision of the ADA you feel is violated by these rules?
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> Well, I agree with Dan completely.  Let me reiterate that we have every
>>> right to freely travel to any state without needing to go through the
>>> process.  HI is subject to the same federal laws as all the other 
>>> states,
>>> and HI is acting like it is a foreign country.
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Meghan Whalen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:02 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>> This is the last thing I will say, because there is definitely a
>>> communication/reasoning ap between us, but, maybe we should be able to,
>>> but
>>> we need to respect and value the fact that HI is free of fleas and
>>> rabies,
>>> and we should be willing to do our small part to make sure it stays that
>>> way.  You are welcome to your opinion, and I am welcome to mine.  I
>>> respect
>>> but do not agree with yours.
>>>
>>> Meghan
>>>
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