[nagdu] a couple questions

Wed Dec 8 17:01:13 UTC 2010

Julie,
    It won't happen! It is not a part of the ADA, per se. It is contained in 
the regulations/rules!

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions


> Jordan,
>
> Could you please cut and paste and send to the list, the place in the ADA 
> where service dogs are mentioned?
>
> thanks much!
> Julie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> Dan,
>> Actually,
>> Service animals are mentioned.  Where did Marrion get that?  I have 
>> written
>> papers and give speeches on guide dog use, and have made reference to the
>> ADA several times.  I'm really getting annoyed with Marrion's attitude, 
>> and
>> get this, there was a major ADA violation at one of the universities in 
>> my
>> state, and he refused to do a thing.
>> Jordan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:43 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Dan,
>>    Actually, service animals are not mentioned in the Act itself. Title 
>> II
>> (which applies to public entities) and Title III (which applies to 
>> private
>> entities that provide public accommodations) refers to the entities
>> requirements to "modify policies, practices, and procedures" to allow an
>> individual with a disability the right to use "auxiliary aids and 
>> services".
>>
>> A service animal is like a wheelchair, walker, or some other auxiliary 
>> aid
>> or service.
>>    The United States legal system is built on case law. the decisions of
>> the Courts defines the law, not necessarily the written word. In the case 
>> of
>>
>> Hawaii, the Court has determined that they are within their rights to 
>> impose
>>
>> the rules they have established. Changing this case law will be up to a
>> higher court with jurisdiction.
>>
>> fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> What about Title III? If I'm not mistaken that's the one talking about
>>> access for guide and service dogs?
>>>
>>> Dan W.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:17 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>> Jordan,
>>>    Though I am not an attorney, I do not feel Hawaii's rules are 
>>> contrary
>>> to the ADA. Can you give us specific provisions of Hawaii's rules and
>>> which
>>> provision of the ADA you feel is violated by these rules?
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I agree with Dan completely.  Let me reiterate that we have every
>>>> right to freely travel to any state without needing to go through the
>>>> process.  HI is subject to the same federal laws as all the other 
>>>> states,
>>>> and HI is acting like it is a foreign country.
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Meghan Whalen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:02 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>> This is the last thing I will say, because there is definitely a
>>>> communication/reasoning ap between us, but, maybe we should be able to,
>>>> but
>>>> we need to respect and value the fact that HI is free of fleas and
>>>> rabies,
>>>> and we should be willing to do our small part to make sure it stays 
>>>> that
>>>> way.  You are welcome to your opinion, and I am welcome to mine.  I
>>>> respect
>>>> but do not agree with yours.
>>>>
>>>> Meghan
>>>>
>>>>
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