[nagdu] a couple questions

Thu Dec 9 01:32:24 UTC 2010

Jordan,

I highly doubt the seeing eye would have lasted over 80 years if their graduate services are as bad as you claim.

Also, based on what you have told us in the situation you experienced the dog refused to work. TSE cannot force a dog to work no matter how good their graduate services are.

Jeff
On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Julie J wrote:

> This is rude.
> 
> Julie
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
> 
> 
>> Just wait until you have continueing problems and see what happens.
>> Jordan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:14 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>> 
>> OK, Jordan. You had a bad experience at TSE. You would never go there again
>> and that's fine. But don't tell us that if we think TSE is a good school we
>> are seriously mistaken. That's not really particularly appropriate.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>> 
>> 
>> If you think TSE is a good school you are sadly mistaken.  If you follow
>> what GDB tells you and know what you are doing and know the signs of a dog
>> not feeling well or not working right, you'd be fine.
>> Jordan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of solsticesinger
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>> 
>> Maybe GDB has allowed you to make all the decisions, but I have known
>> several grads who have argued quite vigorously just to have that right.
>> Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. So, GDB does not let everyone
>> make all the decisions.
>> 
>> I understand that you're happy with your school and with the dog they gave
>> you. However, try to be objective, and realize that no program is perfect.
>> There will be people who have had negative experiences with every program,
>> and that's their right. Those are their experiences, and we can't refuse to
>> hear them. I acknowledge the fact that you have had good experiences with
>> GDB, but, because of things I have heard from close friends, that would not
>> be a school from which I would choose to obtain a dog. However, I will not
>> attempt to persuade you not to get a dog from there. You have the right to
>> your own opinion, just as everyone else does.
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>> 
>> 
>>> Not at GDB.  You still make all the decisions.
>>> JOrdan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of The Pawpower Pack
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:30 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>> 
>>> Jordan,
>>> Everyone's priorities are different.  Ownership is very, very
>>> important to me.  I first attended a program where ownership was not
>>> given.  I felt like the program didn't trust me, and I felt
>>> alternately smothered and threatened.  Needless to say, I didn't go
>>> back there after my 2nd dog.
>>> Because of my experiences, I want to know that I own my dog.  If there
>>> is a medical issue, I want to be the one making the decisions
>>> regarding treatment or lack there of, not some strange vet two time-
>>> zones away.
>>> Other people have different priorities; for some breed is very
>>> important.  They will only work a black lab or a golden or a GSD and
>>> no other breed will do but that particular one.
>>> I seldom have the same breed twice in a row because as long as the dog
>>> can work, I don't really care.
>>> Just because you don't care about ownership doesn't mean that those
>>> who do are wrong or that their priorities are invalid.
>>> 
>>> Rox and the Herbal HenchHounds:
>>> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD. and Laveau Guide Dog, CGC.
>>> "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
>>> not sure about the universe."-Albert Einstein
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