[nagdu] a couple questions

Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1987 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 04:52:35 UTC 2010


Whatever.  This topic is done.  I will not respond to anymore posts about
this.  I've pulled all support for TSE and so have others whom I will not
disclose.
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Toni Whaley
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:46 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

Jordon,

Most of us who have responded to your message acknowledge that you had a bad
experience with Seeing Eye. No one has suggested your experience is invalid
even though he or she may have had many positive experiences with the
school. Yet you do not afford us the same courtesy. In short, I believe your
unwillingness to acknowledge that experiences of others are just as valid as
yours is rude, discourteous, and inappropriate. 

Toni Whaley


it is highly inappropriate and rude to suggest that everyone will have a bad
experience with the school.   You are effectively There are a lot of people
in my area, including myself, have dogs from the Seeing eye. Some of them
have had problems. Inn all cases, they recieved prompt, and courteous
service from the school. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:28 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

That isn't rude.  That is stating a fact about tSE.  They will only show up
maybe twice without you having to get ugly with them I'll put it that way.
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Julie J
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:23 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

This is rude.

Julie
NAGDU list moderator

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions


> Just wait until you have continueing problems and see what happens.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:14 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> OK, Jordan. You had a bad experience at TSE. You would never go there 
> again
> and that's fine. But don't tell us that if we think TSE is a good school 
> we
> are seriously mistaken. That's not really particularly appropriate.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
> If you think TSE is a good school you are sadly mistaken.  If you follow
> what GDB tells you and know what you are doing and know the signs of a dog
> not feeling well or not working right, you'd be fine.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of solsticesinger
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:10 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> Maybe GDB has allowed you to make all the decisions, but I have known
> several grads who have argued quite vigorously just to have that right.
> Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. So, GDB does not let 
> everyone
> make all the decisions.
>
> I understand that you're happy with your school and with the dog they gave
> you. However, try to be objective, and realize that no program is perfect.
> There will be people who have had negative experiences with every program,
> and that's their right. Those are their experiences, and we can't refuse 
> to
> hear them. I acknowledge the fact that you have had good experiences with
> GDB, but, because of things I have heard from close friends, that would 
> not
> be a school from which I would choose to obtain a dog. However, I will not
> attempt to persuade you not to get a dog from there. You have the right to
> your own opinion, just as everyone else does.
>
> Shannon and Caroline
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> Not at GDB.  You still make all the decisions.
>> JOrdan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of The Pawpower Pack
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:30 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Jordan,
>> Everyone's priorities are different.  Ownership is very, very
>> important to me.  I first attended a program where ownership was not
>> given.  I felt like the program didn't trust me, and I felt
>> alternately smothered and threatened.  Needless to say, I didn't go
>> back there after my 2nd dog.
>> Because of my experiences, I want to know that I own my dog.  If there
>> is a medical issue, I want to be the one making the decisions
>> regarding treatment or lack there of, not some strange vet two time-
>> zones away.
>> Other people have different priorities; for some breed is very
>> important.  They will only work a black lab or a golden or a GSD and
>> no other breed will do but that particular one.
>> I seldom have the same breed twice in a row because as long as the dog
>> can work, I don't really care.
>> Just because you don't care about ownership doesn't mean that those
>> who do are wrong or that their priorities are invalid.
>>
>> Rox and the Herbal HenchHounds:
>> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD. and Laveau Guide Dog, CGC.
>> "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
>> not sure about the universe."-Albert Einstein
>> http://www.pawpowercreations.com
>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> AIM: Brissysgirl
>>
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