[nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors

Tue Feb 2 17:04:26 UTC 2010

Cheryl,
What an idiot!!  I have gotten my share of migraines from strong perfume. I 
wonder what are THEY covering up!

Could it be possible that your dog has dandruff from the dry winter weather? 
I had had that problem with my dogs when I lived in New England.  But she 
sure had a nerve to say your dog was dirty. (grin!)

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors

> This is not funny, but I had to laugh on this when Marion said this. 
> Walking home on the bus yesterday, this lady said that Maxx is a dirty 
> dog, I said excuse me, she said that my dog looked dirty, I said that he 
> isn't and that he gets brushed everyday and gets a bath on a regular 
> bases.  She didn't say one word after that, but man oh man, my eyes were 
> watering over that strong perfume she was wearing.
>
> When she got off the bus, the bus drive who I have known for years, said 
> that she wears the worst perfume and that all the passengers on the bus 
> started opening all the windows in freezing weather just to get the smell 
> out.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
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>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Marion & Martin<mailto:swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
>  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:47 AM
>  Subject: [nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors
>
>
>  Dear All,
>      I feel that the terms "smelly" and "offensive" are very subjective 
> terms
>  that open doors to discrimination! The presence of a dog, in and of 
> itself,
>  may be considered "offensive" to some, as we have already discovered! 
> Even a
>  nicely groomed dog that is perfumed may be offensive to someone! I sure 
> hope
>  the DOJ defines these terms a bit more rigorously, as we could see an
>  increase in access if word ets around that "smelly and offensive" dogs 
> can
>  be removed from public accommodations!
>
>  Fraternally yours,
>  Marion
>
>  problems
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Steve Johnson" 
> <stevencjohnson at centurytel.net<mailto:stevencjohnson at centurytel.net>>
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>  <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:39 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Expected DOJRuling in Next Few Weeks
>
>
>  > Julie,
>  >
>  > I had thought something similar, but also at that point, implementing 
> the
>  > same request for reasonable accommodation or modification of policy and
>  > practice if indeed these regs are approved as is.  We know that State 
> laws
>  > cannot be more restrictive, and if we are interpreting this correctly,
>  > they are not, but does the mere fact that the Federal law changes also
>  > change the State's by default?  I don't think so, but maybe one of the
>  > attorney's on the listserv might be able to shed more light on this, or
>  > perhaps Marion as he has definitely vested a lot of time into
>  > understanding these changes.
>  >
>  > The word *smelly* is more specifically underlined by the word 
> offensive,
>  > and hopefully, there will be some more clear definition of what this
>  > actually is.  However, if there is not, then this is definitely not 
> good
>  > as so many have already pointed out scenarios where simply walking 
> through
>  > a rain shower, sprinkler, or even after a pup has had a really hard and
>  > intense workout, has a tendency to emit odors that some do find 
> offensive.
>  > I honestly don't like either word.
>  >
>  > Steve
>  >
>  >
>  > Steve
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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