[nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors

Tue Feb 2 17:10:42 UTC 2010

Well, it may not be technically funny...  But why can I see the cast of
Seinfeld playing that scene?  /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors

This is not funny, but I had to laugh on this when Marion said this.
Walking home on the bus yesterday, this lady said that Maxx is a dirty dog,
I said excuse me, she said that my dog looked dirty, I said that he isn't
and that he gets brushed everyday and gets a bath on a regular bases.  She
didn't say one word after that, but man oh man, my eyes were watering over
that strong perfume she was wearing.

When she got off the bus, the bus drive who I have known for years, said
that she wears the worst perfume and that all the passengers on the bus
started opening all the windows in freezing weather just to get the smell
out.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marion & Martin<mailto:swampfox1833 at verizon.net> 
  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:47 AM
  Subject: [nagdu] "Smelly" & "Offensive" Odors

  Dear All,
      I feel that the terms "smelly" and "offensive" are very subjective
terms 
  that open doors to discrimination! The presence of a dog, in and of
itself, 
  may be considered "offensive" to some, as we have already discovered! Even
a 
  nicely groomed dog that is perfumed may be offensive to someone! I sure
hope 
  the DOJ defines these terms a bit more rigorously, as we could see an 
  increase in access if word ets around that "smelly and offensive" dogs can

  be removed from public accommodations!

  Fraternally yours,
  Marion

  problems
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Steve Johnson"
<stevencjohnson at centurytel.net<mailto:stevencjohnson at centurytel.net>>
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Expected DOJRuling in Next Few Weeks

  > Julie,
  >
  > I had thought something similar, but also at that point, implementing
the
  > same request for reasonable accommodation or modification of policy and
  > practice if indeed these regs are approved as is.  We know that State
laws 
  > cannot be more restrictive, and if we are interpreting this correctly, 
  > they are not, but does the mere fact that the Federal law changes also 
  > change the State's by default?  I don't think so, but maybe one of the 
  > attorney's on the listserv might be able to shed more light on this, or 
  > perhaps Marion as he has definitely vested a lot of time into 
  > understanding these changes.
  >
  > The word *smelly* is more specifically underlined by the word offensive,

  > and hopefully, there will be some more clear definition of what this 
  > actually is.  However, if there is not, then this is definitely not good

  > as so many have already pointed out scenarios where simply walking
through 
  > a rain shower, sprinkler, or even after a pup has had a really hard and 
  > intense workout, has a tendency to emit odors that some do find
offensive. 
  > I honestly don't like either word.
  >
  > Steve
  >
  >
  > Steve
  >
  >
  >
  >
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