[nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123

Ginger Kutsch gingerKutsch at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 1 00:17:21 UTC 2010


Passle & all,

The original language as introduced read:
(2.2)  (i)  A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree
if he is the owner or co-owner of a dog that kills, maims or
disfigures a guide dog of an individual who is blind, a hearing
dog of an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service
dog of an individual who is physically limited without
provocation by the guide, hearing or service dog or the
individual.
 
The new amendment adds the following language to the above:
(ii)  A person commits an offense under this paragraph only if
the person knew or should have known that the dog he owns or
co-owns had a propensity to attack human beings or domestic
animals without provocation.
 
Adding knowledge as an attendant circumstance substantially
waters down this bill but as you and Marion have pointed out,
getting anything in Pennsylvania's criminal code is in itself a
huge step. Kudos to you and all others who've worked so hard to
secure increased protection for your dogs. 

Best,

Ginger
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Passle Helminski
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:05 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123

Hi Marion,

You are so right. That is what I have been telling folks for
years. 
No Bill is perfect that why we have amendments.  Just getting a
Bill in our Criminal Code on the books has taken more than 8
years and it may take more than 8 more years but we will get it
done.  There are too many dogs, trainers and schools that need
this Bill to happen.

Artfully yours,

Passle, Kate and Ariel

>Passel,
>    What is most important in these things is to get something
passed, 
>even if it is not everything we want. Later, we can go back and
amend 
>it further. Please let us know what the amendment is, though!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Marion
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski" 
><passle at roadrunner.com>
>To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:02 PM
>Subject: [nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123
>
>>  >
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>>  The bill has been amended in
>>>>Judiciary, and the amendment is not posted to the computer
screen 
>>>>yet, so I have no idea what it contains.  However, the vote
was 14-0 
>>>>to report the amended bill to the floor.
>>>>
>>>>  I hope to be able to find out more about the amendment
tomorrow. 
>>>>I got the
>>>>impression that it was to make the language accord with
existing 
>>>>Crimes Code provisions - so that lawyers could not throw out
cases 
>>>>on technicality.
>>>>
>>>>-Passle
>>>>
>>
>>
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