[nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123

Passle Helminski passle at roadrunner.com
Thu Jul 1 02:51:07 UTC 2010


Hi Ginger,

You are right.  I am not happy with the Senate amendment but it has 
to go back to the House before it becomes law. I may not be law this 
time as you know it is never a done deal.  I will not stop until we 
have a law in PA.

Thanks Ginger.
Passle



>Passle & all,
>
>The original language as introduced read:
>(2.2)  (i)  A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree
>if he is the owner or co-owner of a dog that kills, maims or
>disfigures a guide dog of an individual who is blind, a hearing
>dog of an individual who is deaf or audibly impaired or a service
>dog of an individual who is physically limited without
>provocation by the guide, hearing or service dog or the
>individual.
>
>The new amendment adds the following language to the above:
>(ii)  A person commits an offense under this paragraph only if
>the person knew or should have known that the dog he owns or
>co-owns had a propensity to attack human beings or domestic
>animals without provocation.
>
>Adding knowledge as an attendant circumstance substantially
>waters down this bill but as you and Marion have pointed out,
>getting anything in Pennsylvania's criminal code is in itself a
>huge step. Kudos to you and all others who've worked so hard to
>secure increased protection for your dogs.
>
>Best,
>
>Ginger
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>On Behalf Of Passle Helminski
>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:05 PM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123
>
>Hi Marion,
>
>You are so right. That is what I have been telling folks for
>years.
>No Bill is perfect that why we have amendments.  Just getting a
>Bill in our Criminal Code on the books has taken more than 8
>years and it may take more than 8 more years but we will get it
>done.  There are too many dogs, trainers and schools that need
>this Bill to happen.
>
>Artfully yours,
>
>Passle, Kate and Ariel
>
>>Passel,
>>     What is most important in these things is to get something
>passed,
>>even if it is not everything we want. Later, we can go back and
>amend
>>it further. Please let us know what the amendment is, though!
>>
>>Fraternally yours,
>>Marion
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Passle Helminski"
>><passle at roadrunner.com>
>>To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:02 PM
>>Subject: [nagdu] Up date on PA HB 123
>>
>>>   >
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   The bill has been amended in
>>>>>Judiciary, and the amendment is not posted to the computer
>screen
>>>>>yet, so I have no idea what it contains.  However, the vote
>was 14-0
>>>>>to report the amended bill to the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I hope to be able to find out more about the amendment
>tomorrow.
>>>>>I got the
>>>>>impression that it was to make the language accord with
>existing
>>>>>Crimes Code provisions - so that lawyers could not throw out
>cases
>>>>>on technicality.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Passle
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>nagdu mailing list
>>>nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>info for nagdu:
>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411
>%40veri
>>>zon.net
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nagdu mailing list
>>nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>info for nagdu:
>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/passle%40
>roadrun
>>ner.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>nagdu mailing list
>nagdu at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>for nagdu:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/gingerkuts
>ch%40yahoo.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>nagdu mailing list
>nagdu at nfbnet.org
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/passle%40roadrunner.com





More information about the NAGDU mailing list