[nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising

[Nimer Jaber]

I look at it is if we had to fill out reports and it minimized the
dogs that ended up getting abused, mistreated or whatever it would
also reflect better on us as dog guide users. We are a minority just
being blind. Being blind dog guide owners makes us more of a minority.
So, if someone saw a blind guy abusing his dog or saw a dog that
wasn't being taken care of, what kind of response do you think that
person's going to give to the next person who he/she runs across with
a guide? It's a reputation thing almost as much as it is to protect
the animals. If we want to keep our rights as dog guide owners, we
have to show that we can take care of them and not abuse them. One or
two people abusing their dogs in front of the right individual could
spell trouble for dog access laws. You guys can disagree as much as
you wish, any comments are welcome.

On 30/07/2010, Danielle Nicole Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com> wrote:
> People who shouldn't have dogs are people I believe whoa ren't ready for the
> commitment. People who have drug problems. People who are unable to control
> their temper. Anyone who'd put a dog in danger.
> Big brother watching is creepy. Ownership is valuable.
> But to prevent dogs from being in danger I think it's teh safer choice
> overall.
> It would be a sacrifice I'd be willing to make to protect the others.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising
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>> How are you deciding that "people who shouldn't have dogs" might get them
>> and what constitutes your criteria for who should have a dog?
>> So, if people who shouldn't have dogs, in quotes, get them, than wasn't it
>> the poor judgment of the school rather than a question of ownership?
>> I do believe in total unfettered and unrestricted ownership, though I see
>> that I'm in a minority--smile.
>> Most of us apparently want big brother watching us.
>>
>> A yearly vet report won't stop, for example, the people I myself think
>> shouldn't have dogs, the ones who in my judgment correct the begeezes out
>> of
>> their dogs.
>> Or those who are yelling at their dogs, that bugged me more than, say, an
>> uncontrolled dog before I had a dog. Now I have a dog and know things
>> happen, but I have a mental check list of people I have met who I think
>> would do the dog and themselves a favor by not having one--smile.
>>
>> Remember, that's my judgment, if a training facility doesn't   think
>> certain
>> grads should have dogs  then they will need to do better at selecting or
>> training.
>> A blind person is still a person.
>> I love dogs more than I can say, actually, but facts are facts, people
>> need
>> to be given consideration, blind people too--smile.
>> We're not just people who have been granted a dog and therefore must be
>> watched because the dog is more important than we are and being a blind
>> person with a guide dog, we might and probably will abuse our dogs..
>> If the schools are so sure we will abuse our dogs, then think twice about
>> training them for us.
>>
>> I personally despise slime balls who abuse their dogs, but will a school
>> owning our dogs and subjecting us to yearly check  lists stop that?
>> Evidence suggests that it won't.
>> The Seeing Eye grants ownership, as I understand, I have not, however, got
>> the impression that more Seeing Eye grads mistreat their dogs than any
>> other
>> school's grads.
>>
>>
>> Remember not attacking you, just expressing my opinions as you are
>> expressing yours.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Dan W.
>>
>> -----Or
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