[nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
Gail
deerskin at oct.net
Sun Jun 20 22:54:14 UTC 2010
You have to be kidding...this is Kansas, the state without a Dept of the
Blind, that has no one you can report ADA violations to, and on and on. I
used to be active in advocacy here, but there is no one, at any goverment
level, who will investigate or take action regarding violations of the ADA,
I couldnt take the stress any more. The last straw was when the public
school here 1) wouldnt accept that Asperger's Syndrome is on the autistic
spectrum, despite how they have it billed in their financial department (no
kidding, this is for real). And 2) they accused us of 'training our son to
be disabled' by giving him a service dog to help him with various situations
and 3) that this dog was only a pet, trained for no tasks (even when the
task was demonstrated for them), and that I was not qualified to be a pet
trainer, let alone an SD trainer. And would not accept said qualifcations
either when shown the work of both SDs, shown both Kansas State SD law and
Federal law regarding owner training, and the recommedations I had recieved
from other trainers who had seen my work. So the special education
department (SPED) teachers and aides set out to make our son's life a living
hell while he was in both the grade school and high school. They stressed
him to the point of causing him to scratch himself to ribbons with his
fingernails, daily migraines (one of which I believe caused him to have a
TIA stroke, from which he has never fully recovered). They would force him
to tie his SD to a table in one room, then drag him by the elbow to another
room for a class, leaving the SD in an open, unattended classroom. And on
and on. It finally got to the point where our son was in constant turmoil,
hating everyone around him, and especially his SD, who remains utterly
devoted to him. We took him out of that school, and homeschooled him after
that, but the damage remains. He has a deep distrust of everyone, refuses to
work with his SD...Diego is 'the family pet' now to him, though our son does
bring him to bed with him every night.
We fought for his rights every step of the way, from the school board, local
police, literally up to and including writing to the White House (dumb, I
know). All we got was platiudes, and why the various entities couldnt help,
but they knew someone else who could....and no one ever did. That is why I
dont believe now that when there is a real problem, that its Possible for
the poor who are disabled would be able to see justice, unless it is made
public. If you arent rich as a king, and able to buy lawyers, the Illigitimi
win every time.
Sorry for the rant. The problems I'm having are bringing back bad memories
of that hell we went through for our son...and it was all for nothing.
Gail
-------Original Message-------
From: Cathryn Bonnette
Date: 6/20/2010 5:16:53 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
So, have they never read the ADA?
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:55 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
Wow! There sure is a lot of wasted space on this one! None of these
Provisions concerning documentation of the service animal is enforceable!
Fraternally yours,
Marion
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gail" <deerskin at oct.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
> Kansas SD law doesnt require any special tack, but does require an ID
> badge.
> I had mine attatched to the harness with a caribiner, and I think it was
> the
> reason I never had any access problems.
>
> http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusksguidedog.htm39-1111
>
>
> . Procedure for verification of person's right to be accompanied by
> assistance dog or professional therapy dog
>
> (a) If a question arises as to whether an assistance dog qualifies under
> this act to accompany a person with a disability in or upon any place set
> forth in K.S.A. 39-1101, and amendments thereto, the person with a
> disability may produce for the employee or person responsible for such
> place
> an identification card or letter conforming to the requirements of this
> subsection. Upon production of such identification card or letter, the
> assistance dog shall be allowed to accompany the person with a disability
> in
> or upon such place.
> (1) If the assistance dog has been trained by a training facility, school
> or
> trainer, the identification card or letter shall be provided by the
> training
> facility, school or trainer that trained the dog and shall contain the
> following information: (A) The legal name of the dog's user; (B) the name,
> address and telephone number of the facility, school or trainer who
> trained
> the dog; (C) whether the dog is designated as a guide, hearing assistance
> or
> service dog; and (D) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the dog
> user and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital photographic
> likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the picture or digital
> photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the letter or
> be
> affixed to the letter.
>
> (2) If the assistance dog has been trained by the person using the dog,
> the
> identification card or letter shall contain the following information: (A)
> The legal name of the dog's user; (B) the dog user's address; (C) a
> statement that the dog has been trained to mitigate the dog user's
> disability; and (D) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the dog
> user and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital photographic
> likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the picture or digital
> photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the letter or
> be
> affixed to the letter.
>
> (b) If a question arises as to whether a dog handler is qualified, or
> whether the dog accompanying the handler is qualified as a professional
> therapy dog, to enter in or upon the places set forth in K.S.A. 39-1110,
> and
> amendments thereto, an employee or person responsible for such places may
> request, and the qualified handler shall produce, an identification card
> or
> letter, provided by the training facility, school or trainer who trained
> the
> dog. Such card or letter shall contain the following information: (1) The
> legal name of the qualified dog handler; (2) the name, address and
> telephone
> number of the facility, school or trainer who trained the dog; (3)
> information documenting that the dog is trained to provide therapeutic
> supports; and (4) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the
> qualified handler and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital
> photographic likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the
> picture
> or digital photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the
> letter or be affixed to the letter.
>
> (c) If a question arises as to whether an individual accompanied by a dog
> is
> a professional trainer, from a recognized training center, of an
> assistance
> dog, in order to enter in or upon a place set forth in K.S.A. 39-1101, and
> amendments thereto, an employee or person responsible for such place may
> request, and the trainer shall produce, an identification card provided by
> the recognized training center containing the following information: (1)
> The
> legal name of the trainer; (2) the name of the training center; (3) the
> address and telephone number of the training center; (4) the types of
> functions for which dogs are trained by the center; and (5) a picture or
> digital photographic likeness of the trainer.
>
> (d) An identification card or letter produced for inspection pursuant to
> this section shall be promptly returned to the person with a disability,
> the
> qualified handler or the professional trainer after inspection.
>
> Hope this info is a useful addition to your list
>
> Gail
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Marion Gwizdala
> Date: 6/17/2010 6:10:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
>
> Julie,
> Thanks for your willingness to help. Sherrill did some great research
> And found that 38 states provide criminal remedies for violating our civil
> Rights. We also found some very interesting language concerning such
> details
>
> As the color of the leash and harness for a "certified" guide dog! We will
> Be calling on members to help us compile the actual texts of the statutes
> so
>
> We can work on creating parity between state and federal laws. As soon as
> I
> Have a resolution to share with the list, I will send it out!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
>
>
>> Marion,
>>
>> I can help. Do you have a list of states that you specifically need info
>> on? I would be willing to look up as many as I can. If we split it up
>> and several of us take 5 or so, it shouldn't be a problem to get all the
>> info you need.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "FLAGDU List" <FLAGDU at NFBNET.ORG>; "NAGDU List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>;
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:40 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research
>>
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> I am writing a resolution to be presented to our national convention
>>> concerning bringing state laws into parity with the ADA and
>>> criminalizing
>
>>> the denial of access to places of public accommodation. The deadline for
>>> the resolution is tomorrow (friday, June 18) at 5:00 pm..
>>> I am looking for someone who can do some quick research for me
>>> concerning how many states have criminal penalties for denial of access?
>>> Here's what I need to know:
>>>
>>> 1. Which states have criminal statutes/penalties for denial of access?
>>> (If it is possible to get both the total number and the specific state,
>>> that would be great! If this is too time consuming, I need to know if at
>>> least 26 states have such remedies!)
>>>
>>> 2. where did you get the information? Please give as much information as
>>> possible, preferrably in APA style. If you don't know what that is, just
>>> give me what you can about where the information came from.
>>>
>>> Please send the information to me directly to
>>>
>>> Blind411 at Verizon.net
>>>
>>> Fraternaly yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> 813-598-7161
>>> Blind411 at Verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate whatever information you can find to help me wrap up this
>>> resolution. Once it is finished, I will send it to the lists for
>>> comments
>
>>> and to the Board for their approval.
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> 813-598-7161
>>> President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG
>>> HTTP://NFB-NAGDU.ORG
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