[nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!

Mon Mar 29 03:10:37 UTC 2010

Rebecca,

Oh, that trauma!  And why is it always the *guys* who get to be greeted by
the girl stuff or to have to trip over it on the floor as they walk into the
house?  Well, my friends from my old apartment complex did walk into my
place a couple of time, looking through the open doo to the staircase...
Which was well-decorated.  They're both quite melodramatic, so I got to pick
up the decorations while listening to all the exclamations of horror and
disgust and OMG!  While a certain poodle pup followed me around wiggling
with pride and grinning like a maniac.  Oh, yeah.  She is so, so funny and
clever.

Okay.  Before the guys run screaming...  Kidding!

You have a good point about Lisa's response, too.  It's easy to discuss
someone else's sudden bout of fury in a cool, calm and collected manner...
Than to suddenly find you're having one of your own.

Lisa, I, too, would like to hear how you managed with your own feelings and
wiith any decisions about how to address the behavior in the future.  Not to
pry, but I know it's not easy.  /smile/  It sounds like you didn't lose your
cool towards the dog in an inappropriate way, which is the important thing.
/smile/  Still!  We humans remain mad long after the logs have forgotten all
about it and moved on, pausing every now and then to wonder what our problem
is.  Well, speaking myself, anyway.  /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:46 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!

Thing is, you can't know ahead of time what your dog will or won't find
attractive. 
My second dog had a taste for of all things, my tampons, my *used*
tampons. Trust me, the guys on the list have never experienced that with
any of your dogs. The first time it happened, I was grossed out, then
surprised, and eventually I learned to just keep my dog close to me when
I knew the trash would be a temptation. Simply closing the bathroom door
only works if one hasn't showered because you need to let the bathroom
air out postshower. Looking back, I could have gotten a diaper disposal
system and I did suggest that to I think one of you on the list at one
time. Still, I didn't think of it when I was dealing with that issue
with that dog. I can now look back at this and smile, but trust me boys,
you haven't lived until you're about to leave to go on a date and your
dog very proudly greets your guest with acertain object in her mouth.
You do learn a lot about your date though and that is always a good
thing. 
All I'm getting at is that it can be more involved then "just take some
extra time and put things away". 
At what point does taking all that time become untenable? I think we all
have our own limits. On the surface Lisa's anger at her dog sounds
extreme. That being said, I have no idea what else the dog did or didn't
do that day and over time. Lisa may just for any number of reasons
external and internal taken all she can take. 
Lisa, please write back and let us know how you're doing. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Albert J Rizzi
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:07 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!

It is also our responsibility as part of the team to lead not into
temptation but to deliver from distraction. For all the wonderful
freedoms
these beasts bring to our lives,and despite all the investment of time,
dollars and energy which goes into their training, they are dogs at the
end
of the day. I am harkened to recall that you can take the boy out of
Brooklyn but you can't take the Brooklyn out of the boy here. If we do
not
as handlers properly stow all garbage, paper goods, shoes and any other
like
desirable chewable tid bits are we not ourselves setting our guides up
for
failure or at best setting ourselves up for frustration and anger over a
this or that being chewed on. if only we had taken the time to put them
safely away or out of reach of that always ever inquisitive nose and
tongue
looking for something to pass the time with? 

Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of sarah baebler
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:48 AM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!

I agree.  Dogs are dogs and guides are dogs when they're out of harness,
and
occasionally when in harness.  Don't be mad at the dog she probably
doesn't
even know why your mad or not touching or petting her.  After a few
minutes
they don't even know it happened little own finding something that
smelled
and tasted good was bad.
Sarah

> From: stevencjohnson at centurytel.net
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:00:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!
> 
> Remember, she is a dog first, and as much as we want them to be
perfect,
> that is just an impossible request.  Sometimes it is expected that
these
> highly trained dogs become little soldiers, and are expected to do
> everything right.  We forget that they are dogs, and this is just
simply
> their nature.  I think we probably have all had similar situations
take
> place, and sure, we were probably frustrated at the time, but can look
back
> and laugh.  Change that around, and laugh when it happens as they are
just
> doing what is inherently in them.  You want shredding stories, counter
> surfing stories, or times we all were frustrated with our guides for
> something was a real concern, just ask and we will deliver, so the
best
> advice that you are getting from your peers is to hug her and maybe
even
ask
> her if it was good, because it is not going to happen again.  And, one
more
> little piece of advice, she did not really do anything wrong, you were
> probably more at fault for leving this out for her to investigate...it
takes
> two.
> 
>  JMO
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Lisa Ison
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:59 PM
> To: seeingeye-l at list.web.net
> Subject: [nagdu] HELP!!! LIVID DOG HANDLER!!
> 
> Hello everyone,  sub says it all.  I just got out of a a lovely hot
bath
and
> went into my room to change into my pajamas and I found what I at
first
> thought to be tissues torn up all over my floor.  I of course was not
happy
> about it but not overly angry since Hailey has a propensity to tear up
> tissues from the trash.  However, oncloser inspection as I went to
clean
up
> the mess I realized what the mess actually was.  It was my dirty
Seeing
Eye
> lunch bag that I had put in the laundry since it had corn beef and
cabbage
> juice all over it.  Hailey completely tore out and chewed up the
bottom of
> the bag.  I am so very livid that I don't even want to see her or
touch
her
> right now.  What should I do?  Help and advice would be very much
> appreciated right now.  I really don't know what to do.
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