[nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?

Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Tue Mar 30 18:09:58 UTC 2010


Can you send me the info for the blind cooks list? I don't have it or at
least not anymore.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?

Julie since you belong to the blind cooks list I will put up a fool
proof recipe for chicken.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julie J<mailto:julielj at windstream.net> 
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?


  Thanks Albert!

  The thing is that I know the alternatives for cooking chicken, I just
have 
  little confidence in myself using them.  I suppose I just need to suck
it up 
  and practice.

  When I first learned to use a cane, I experienced the same thing.  I 
  remember knowing how to cross the street, but standing at the corner
for 
  what seemed like forever trying to get up the nerve to do it on my
own.  BTW 
  I cooked chicken at that same training center, but apparently
salmonella is 
  a larger fear for me than road pizza! LOL

  Julie




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Albert J Rizzi"
<albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>
  To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"

  <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?


  > Well I for one have been judged that way on this very thread or chat
or
  > whatever it is you call this. No one has asked me anything of my
  > accomplishments as a blind person at all. Not how I have adjusted or
what 
  > I
  > am doing to be a well equipped and integral part of society. oh
yeah, rule
  > of thumb with chicken, if you set your timer for 15 minutes for each
side
  > you should be good to go. Of course it all depends on how you are
cooking
  > the chicken, fried, baked, on the bone off the bone, whole or parts.
I 
  > would
  > be happy to chat on that one off line. Steak is easy too. If you use
your
  > broiler, usually 8-9 minutes on each side is rare at least for ne,
and 
  > 9-11
  > minutes would be medium and 12-13 would be well done. a barb-a-q
would be
  > more or less the same depending on the flame. I suggest a medium
flame to
  > achieve the same results. That touching your hand thing is lost on
me
  > because of some nerve damage I suffered. Peace.
  >
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  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
  > Of Julie J
  > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:27 PM
  > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
  > Subject: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?
  >
  > Some of the recent discussion got me to thinking about how we, as
blind
  > people, perceive independence or who is more capable than who.   It
seems
  > that we always use travel to judge who has better skills than who.
I know
  > we have discussed this before, but I still have no clue why we don't
use
  > Braille or cooking or something else to base our judgments on.  I'm
guilty
  > of it too.  I've caught myself thinking if not actually saying that
so and
  > so isn't as well adjusted as they could be because they are always
needing
  > help to get places.
  >
  > I happen to be a very good traveler with cane or dog.  But you know
what? 
  > I
  > read Braille at about 40 wpm.  By any measure that's slow, like 
  > incredibly,
  > snails pace slow.  But no one has ever said to me, "You know, you
should
  > really attend a center where you could get better Braille skills so
you
  > could be more independent."
  >
  > Then there is the kitchen...I really like to cook.  Generally I'm
okay in
  > the kitchen.  I cook most meals from scratch.  But, getting the
meat,
  > especially the chicken, thoroughly cooked is a constant stress for
me. 
  > I'm
  > frequently freaked out about whether or not there is any pink in the
meat.
  > I know the skills.  I know how to check nonvisually, but I totally
and
  > completely lack chicken confidence.
  >
  > Am I crazy?  or don't you think that blind people always judge other
blind
  > people on the basis of travel skills and virtually nothing else?
  >
  > thoughts?
  > Julie
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