[nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?

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Tue Mar 30 22:30:14 UTC 2010


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)<mailto:REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> 
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?


  Can you send me the info for the blind cooks list? I don't have it or at
  least not anymore.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
  Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
  Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:50 AM
  To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?

  Julie since you belong to the blind cooks list I will put up a fool
  proof recipe for chicken.

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Julie J<mailto:julielj at windstream.net<mailto:julielj at windstream.net>> 
    To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> 
    Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:48 AM
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?


    Thanks Albert!

    The thing is that I know the alternatives for cooking chicken, I just
  have 
    little confidence in myself using them.  I suppose I just need to suck
  it up 
    and practice.

    When I first learned to use a cane, I experienced the same thing.  I 
    remember knowing how to cross the street, but standing at the corner
  for 
    what seemed like forever trying to get up the nerve to do it on my
  own.  BTW 
    I cooked chicken at that same training center, but apparently
  salmonella is 
    a larger fear for me than road pizza! LOL

    Julie




    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Albert J Rizzi"
  <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>>
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    Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:34 PM
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?


    > Well I for one have been judged that way on this very thread or chat
  or
    > whatever it is you call this. No one has asked me anything of my
    > accomplishments as a blind person at all. Not how I have adjusted or
  what 
    > I
    > am doing to be a well equipped and integral part of society. oh
  yeah, rule
    > of thumb with chicken, if you set your timer for 15 minutes for each
  side
    > you should be good to go. Of course it all depends on how you are
  cooking
    > the chicken, fried, baked, on the bone off the bone, whole or parts.
  I 
    > would
    > be happy to chat on that one off line. Steak is easy too. If you use
  your
    > broiler, usually 8-9 minutes on each side is rare at least for ne,
  and 
    > 9-11
    > minutes would be medium and 12-13 would be well done. a barb-a-q
  would be
    > more or less the same depending on the flame. I suggest a medium
  flame to
    > achieve the same results. That touching your hand thing is lost on
  me
    > because of some nerve damage I suffered. Peace.
    >
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>>
  [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
    > Of Julie J
    > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:27 PM
    > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
    > Subject: [nagdu] mobility-the deciding factor?
    >
    > Some of the recent discussion got me to thinking about how we, as
  blind
    > people, perceive independence or who is more capable than who.   It
  seems
    > that we always use travel to judge who has better skills than who.
  I know
    > we have discussed this before, but I still have no clue why we don't
  use
    > Braille or cooking or something else to base our judgments on.  I'm
  guilty
    > of it too.  I've caught myself thinking if not actually saying that
  so and
    > so isn't as well adjusted as they could be because they are always
  needing
    > help to get places.
    >
    > I happen to be a very good traveler with cane or dog.  But you know
  what? 
    > I
    > read Braille at about 40 wpm.  By any measure that's slow, like 
    > incredibly,
    > snails pace slow.  But no one has ever said to me, "You know, you
  should
    > really attend a center where you could get better Braille skills so
  you
    > could be more independent."
    >
    > Then there is the kitchen...I really like to cook.  Generally I'm
  okay in
    > the kitchen.  I cook most meals from scratch.  But, getting the
  meat,
    > especially the chicken, thoroughly cooked is a constant stress for
  me. 
    > I'm
    > frequently freaked out about whether or not there is any pink in the
  meat.
    > I know the skills.  I know how to check nonvisually, but I totally
  and
    > completely lack chicken confidence.
    >
    > Am I crazy?  or don't you think that blind people always judge other
  blind
    > people on the basis of travel skills and virtually nothing else?
    >
    > thoughts?
    > Julie
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