[nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Margo and Arrow margo.downey at verizon.net
Sat May 1 20:29:00 UTC 2010


Hey, Meghan, ditto!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meghan" <meghan at n-republic.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness


>I don't know...it says you can be refunded completely, because once you've 
>paid, you get access to this Mike fellow's email address.  It's 
>conveniently tucked away in what I'm thinking is scam land.  I think that 
>80 vidios is, um, never going to be available for $47, and that if 
>anything, this scamming fellow has decided to donate parts of his profits 
>from scamming to the Seeing Eye to feel a little better about himself and 
>his dishonesty?  Maybe?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota at hawaii.rr.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
>
>> You know what really bugs me, too, is that the material doesn't appear to 
>> be
>> very accessible to blind people. Wouldn't you think he'd do the stuff in
>> something other than videos to help his other blind people who might be
>> dealing with similar situations? Shoot, if I was going to do something 
>> like
>> that I'd want to make sure it was accessible especially since he had to
>> overcome some issues himself. The whole thing doesn't sit very well but I
>> keep wondering if there's something missing so I thought maybe since he
>> appears to be a dog user somebody might know him. Maybe he doesn't know 
>> how
>> terrible the promoter is since he might not be able to hear the blurb, 
>> who
>> knows!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>> Good points there, actually.  Since we've all gotten told how amazing we 
>> are
>> for being able to tie our own shoes or walk between our bedroom and the
>> bathroom in our homes all by ourselves, I think we tend to notice
>> patronization and condescension from a mile away.
>>
>> Honestly, though, walking through an environment like a gym -- even when 
>> you
>> can use sound cues for navigation but where there are lots of people,
>> sounds, echoes, and heavy weights lying on the floor -- is fairly
>> challenging when you can't see all the things going on or moving around 
>> or
>> lying in your way.  Not being able to hear sound cues, even confusing 
>> one,
>> at all would add significantly to the challenge, or so I can only 
>> imagine.
>>
>> So in that respect for the guy to walk from the door to the equipment he
>> wants to use is more of an accomplishment than it would be for someone 
>> who
>> isn't missing any super-helpful sensory information.
>>
>> Still!  Shut up about it already!  Yeah, guy does great stuff going 
>> around
>> the gym, it's harder for him than most of the people in that environment.
>> Rah him!
>>
>> Losing significant weight and gaining fitness in the process -- that's at
>> least as challenging, no matter which senses you do or don't have!
>>
>> But it's true that if the guy is willing to accept that style of 
>> prmotion,
>> it's his decision.  Which doesn't mean that for me, at a gut level, my 
>> hair
>> stands on end reading the thing.  /grin/
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:47 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>> The overweight guy may be totally okay with being used in this manner.
>> Let's not forget that. I found the article and the fitness guy 
>> off-putting,
>> hence I'll ignore him. Let's not forget though, all are adults here. The
>> overweight guy may be totally okay and on board with this. If he isn't, 
>> he
>> can probably sue for some kind of legal compensation, maybe that his 
>> image
>> was used for exploitation? I don't know, one of our lawyers will need to
>> weigh in.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:45 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>> Bryan,
>>
>> Well, that was more or less my impression, too.  The writer wasn't 
>> promoting
>> the guy he was talking about but himself.  I find that sort of individual
>> offputting to say the least!
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Bryan Brown
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>> Yep, I'm glad this guy has decided to get fit too, but this personal 
>> fitness
>>
>> trainer is kind of a shmuck and I think he's got a touch of martyr's
>> syndrome. He starts the first video by saying, "I don't make a penny off 
>> of
>> this" and then he goes on to tell you about this blind gentleman buying
>> every book he has ever written. Additionally when you try to exit the web
>> site, "well, there's a sales pitch" the article itself is kind of 
>> offensive
>> and I'm not sure how any one can keep such a full of them selves attitude
>> while trying to give credit to someone else,,, kind of like "look at how
>>
>> inspiring this guy is, and yep, it's because of me!"
>>
>> If the Seeing Eye gets some cash out of this, "well" good for them. I 
>> only
>> hope it's donated anonymously.
>>
>> Oh, and here's one more thing that ticks me off, this trainer said that 
>> it
>> took him days to copy and paste a .pdf file into a .doc file. I think 
>> he's
>> got to get a little real, learn how to hit "control A" "control C and
>> "control V" and work on getting his ego down a few pounds.
>>
>> But that's just my opinion, I hope this didn't offend anyone.
>>
>>    thanks,
>>    Bryan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>>
>>> Well, I'm glad he's becoming physically fit, but, oh, my, I do not
>> like
>>> the article and I hope Seeing eye doesn't take the donations.
>>>
>>> Margo and Arrow
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota at hawaii.rr.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:44 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>>
>>>
>>>> This was sent to me today, and I'm forwarding this to the list partly
>> to
>>>> see
>>>> what others think about the whole thing and partly because
>> ultimately, if
>>>> you read the message and follow the link and view the video, when
>> this
>>>> fitness material is sold a percentage goes to The Seeing Eye. This
>> has
>>>> nothing to do with The Seeing Eye per se, it's the creator of the
>> video
>>>> who
>>>> has decided to donate to The Seeing Eye.  Looking at the way this
>> thing
>>>> is
>>>> promoted, I just feel like we've still got a ways to go in some ways
>> and
>>>> I
>>>> wonder if anyone has thought to make this person's videos audio
>> described
>>>> and make the materials accessible. This just shows how slowly
>> peopole's
>>>> view
>>>> of us changes or almost stands still
>>>>
>>>> Maybe someone on the list knows the person that this whole story is
>> about
>>>> and could give some insight. I guess that's part of why I'm sharing
>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Check it out and see what you all think about it. I've removed most
>> all
>>>> of
>>>> the unnecessary stuff from the following message just to make it
>> easier
>>>> to
>>>> get to the point.
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Subject: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>>>
>>>> It's rare that I'm moved and inspired at the same time by something I
>> see
>>
>>>> on
>>>> the internet.
>>>>
>>>> But today I have an exception for you.
>>>>
>>>> Let me briefly prepare you for what you're about to see and hear.
>>>>
>>>> I say "see" and "hear" with all due respect because the man who put
>> this
>>>> wild fatloss and fitness system together cannot do either.
>>>>
>>>> He is totally blind and almost totally deaf.
>>>>
>>>> So he made this presentation with the help of one of my friends in
>> the
>>>> fitness world (my good buddy Jon Benson) who doesn't take a penny
>> (nor
>>>> will
>>>> he ever) from helping this extraordinary new fitness role model.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to do my part, too... but believe me, I'm not just helping a
>>
>>>> blind
>>>> guy out here. I'm sharing a true gem with you if you want to take
>> your
>>>> body
>>>> and your motivation to the next level.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine this:
>>>>
>>>> Being totally blind and overweight. Yet wanting to be fit.
>>>>
>>>> Now, really picture it:  You cannot see, so going to a gym is...
>> well...
>>>> almost impossible (or so you may think... this guy figured it out...
>> )
>>>> You
>>>> trip over weights other people leave on the floor. You cannot tell if
>>>> someone is using that machine (you know, the one you had to count
>> steps
>>>> to
>>>> from the gym door in order to find?) until you practically sit on
>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Get the picture?
>>>>
>>>> And what about eating right?  How do you measure everything? How do
>> you
>>>> know
>>>> if you're buying the right brand of, say, chicken breast? Is this
>> chicken
>>>> with or without skin?
>>>>
>>>> You see how tricky this is?
>>>>
>>>> And yet, Mike figured out how to do it.
>>>>
>>>> More than that -- he dumped over 40 lbs of blubber and put on muscle
>>>> shape... and now he looks like a different person.
>>>>
>>>> My friend Jon tells the motivational story about this blind gentleman
>> and
>>>> his fitness story here:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf  <----Check it out
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You may be thinking... "Okay, so how can a blind guy's program help
>> me?"
>>>>
>>>> I thought the same thing until I checked it out.
>>>>
>>>> You see, A LOT of the fitness challenges we ALL face (sighted or not)
>> go
>>>> unseen (pardon my expression!)  We just can't seem to figure out
>> "why" we
>>>> cannot get or stay fit... and the real reason for this is that we
>> cannot
>>>> see
>>>> the REAL problem.
>>>>
>>>> My new friend, Mike Weingarden, is just your typical guy... except
>> he's
>>>> blind (totally) and almost deaf. But he was forced to dig a LOT
>> deeper
>>>> than
>>>> most of us due to his physical challenges in order to figure out how
>> to
>>>> shed
>>>> bodyfat, shape-up his body with lean muscle, and stay
>> super-motivated.
>>>>
>>>> Doing this allowed him to discover the REAL challenges... and the
>>>> solutions... to changing anyone's body.
>>>>
>>>> I'm telling you, this guy has put together a System that is just
>> unreal.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a "nice-to-have"... it's a must-have. Not just for the
>>>> inspiration
>>>> (and who wouldn't be inspired by this man!)... but for the 80 (yes,
>>>> eighty)
>>>> training and nutrition videos Mike shot during his journey. He shows
>> you
>>>> how
>>>> to perform just about every exercise you'll ever need. He goes over
>>>> nutrition, inspiration, in-home workouts... and so much more.
>>>>
>>>> The videos themselves are worth a small fortune... but Mike is not a
>>>> greedy
>>>> guy. He's practically giving this away just to get his foot in the
>> door
>>>> of
>>>> the fitness world. And, in his own words, "Just to prove a point...
>> that
>>>> if
>>>> I can do it, anyone can... no exceptions."
>>>>
>>>> Here's the full story...
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>>>
>>>> Go get inspired... and get into your best shape ever.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Mike Geary
>>>> Certified Personal Trainer
>>>> Certified Nutrition Specialist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  Let me be honest with you:  Mike is far from a rich guy. Just
>> the
>>>> opposite. Due to his physical challenges, he can barely make ends
>> meet.
>>>> But
>>>> he came through and put together an an incredible program here.
>>>>
>>>> So yeah... of course. I wanted to help Mike by sharing this System
>> with
>>>> you
>>>> asap... but there's more to the story.
>>>>
>>>> Mike is giving 10% of his earnings to a charity for the blind. So you
>>
>>>> will
>>>> not just be helping yourself get fit (and yes, helping Mike out too)
>> but
>>>> also helping some people who cannot see regain some of their personal
>>>> freedom.
>>>>
>>>> His charity is really cool. It's covered in the presentation on this
>>>> page...
>>>> as is his See Yourself Fit System, including his 80-plus digital
>>>> videos...
>>>>
>>>> Go on over and check it out:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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