[nagdu] rejected by the lions club?

Nicole B. Torcolini ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Sun May 2 23:27:50 UTC 2010


Just an idea, but are there any groups locally--scouts, Honor Society, 
etc--that have teenagers that may be able to help you in some way?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] rejected by the lions club?


> Go for it. For me so far the costs have been shipping for the dog,
> equipment, food, soon I will be paying vet care, training, etc. I was
> just asking for a little help whether it be money or time, even if
> they'd just help us go for walks, take us places for soialization etc.
> Jessica
>
> On 5/2/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
>> Well, first we have someone who understands some of what goes into some
>> people's choices  in their options for mobility. We also have another
>> misinformed individual who knows nothing of the handlers who prefer to 
>> owner
>> train their dogs. We also have a person who has a strong affiliation with 
>> a
>> school that the Lion's Club committed raises funds for. So, perhaps there 
>> is
>> an opportunity to educate miss rosemary on the fact that some people are
>> very adept at training their dogs and that as a president of a chapter 
>> she
>> needs to be better informed before she offers advice or as I have
>> interpreted the tone, condemnation for those who choose to owner train. I
>> would be happy to suggest forwarding this email to our lion's list serve 
>> and
>> ask them their opinion, and I would even offer to write her, for I myself 
>> am
>> a lion and would welcome the opportunity of opening her eyes to the 
>> truths
>> about guides and options with everything that is Lionism. She is just
>> unaware and ignorant of what is possible in this regard, and may 
>> obviously
>> be getting her skewed  opinion  from the organization  which she and her
>> club give so much money to and get so much publicity from for doing so.
>>
>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> CEO/Founder
>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> New York, New York  10004
>> www.myblindspot.org
>> PH: 917-553-0347
>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who 
>> is
>> doing it."
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Jessica Pitzer
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:53 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?
>>
>> Hi all,
>> following is an email I received in response to an email I sent to my
>> local lions club about asking for help with some of the costs of owner
>> training. I'm.. not quite sure how to feel right now except baffled as
>> we have some many owner trainers and I just embarked on this journey
>> myself.
>> Thoughts?
>> On 5/2/10, Rosemary Richert <rosemary at richertnet.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Bert,
>>>
>>> It is highly unusual, and questionably irresponsible, for someone to 
>>> train
>>> their own guide dog.  The state only recognizes service animals which 
>>> have
>>> been professionally trained.  Any other such dogs may be banned from
>> places
>>> which would otherwise allow access to service animals.  Necessary 
>>> training
>>> of the dog is very comprehensive and time consuming.  And, subsequently,
>>> training of the blind person with the dog is, also, very comprehensive 
>>> and
>>> time consuming.  For the person's training, alone, three weeks of 
>>> on-site
>>> training with the animal determined best suited to their needs is
>> required.
>>> The blind person needs to prove their orientation and mobility skills
>> before
>>> even being accepted into a training program.  Without proof of the
>> adequacy
>>> of those skills, they will not be accepted.
>>>
>>> I served on the Board of Directors of Leader Dogs for the Blind for four
>>> years, and am the person who convinced the facility to become trainers 
>>> for
>>> the blind/deaf community...to the best of my knowledge, it remains the
>> only
>>> facility with qualified instructors of deaf/blind individuals.  I tell 
>>> you
>>> this, so that you may understand that I have a credible background in
>> these
>>> matters, and know whereof I speak.  I would strongly caution your Lions
>>> club, or any other Lions club, about considering involvement with a 
>>> person
>>> who thinks they can train a guide dog for the blind on their own.
>>> Involvement under such circumstances could come back to haunt an 
>>> otherwise
>>> well-meaning club.  It would make much more sense for this person to be
>>> screened as to qualifications; and, if qualified, be sponsored to a
>>> recognized service do training program.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind consideration.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> God bless.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Lionism at Heart, C
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PDG Rosemary
>>
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