[nagdu] Got a question for the list

Mon May 3 12:13:52 UTC 2010

Mark, T
He added work to bennifit ratio is incredibly subjective. 
The added work of a dog was fine for me until I had my daughter. Then it
became way too much for a bunch of reasons. I've written about this
on-list but if you email me off-list I can rehash so as to avoid
repeating myself here. 
A guide dog is at first a dog and they do dog-like stuff I'll say that
people with pet dogs run into the same issues, so this isn't unique to
guide dogs. 
As with all things, there are trade-offs. It is very hard to quantify
guide dogs though because both you and the dog are living beings with
changing needs, you more so then the dog. A dog may be right for you
now, but will it be in your 30's when you have a wife and kids? Maybe,
maybe not. This may explain why finding the type of data you want is
difficult. 
I don't know how to advise you further. Sounds like you two are having a
religious war, v. a discussion that you both hope to resolve. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:31 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Got a question for the list

In response to the points made on this list in no particular order:

I am an 18 year old cane user. My parents haven't stated a valid reason
for 
not wanting me to have a dog. The only things they say are, the famous
"I 
said so" and more recently they have clamed that the work of a dog
outways 
it's usefulnis. My question about the last statement is how they would
know 
how useful a guide dog is.

I think it is important to convince them rather than going around them 
because I am currently living with them, and will be for the next year
or 
so. I will also be living at home over vacations and possibly for a
brief 
time after college.

The type of report I was looking for is a study on effectiveness of
varying 
mobility aides that clearly states that a dog is superior in certain 
situations or quantifies the added work to additional benefit.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandrabur at gmx.de>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Got a question for the list

> HI Mark,
>
> Many good points have been made and I have nothing much to add. I do
think
> that if you had to live with your parents as you are getting the dog
them
> not being for it might cause problems with the dog and also between
you 
> and
> them and maybe even you and the dog because of tensions. But since you
are
> going away it should be easier and they might even accept the dog
better
> once they see how you are doing together. That being said, I also
would be
> interested if you would want to share what your parents concerns
against
> getting a dog might be.
>
> Good luck in finding what's right for you!
>
> Ioana
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Got a question for the list
>
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I think that the answers given to you on this list are very good.
But
>> I have a couple of questions for you.  Do you currently use a white
>> cane?  And what are the reasons your parents give for not wanting you
>> to get a guide dog?  Perhaps they have valid reasoning.  I would
think
>> that this is a good time for you to get a dog, but I am not familiar
>> with your situation.
>>
>> On 4/30/10, William ODonnell <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Colleges and Universities are required to except or deny you based
on
>>> your
>>> academic credentials only.  In regard to your parents, a boundary
issue
>>> can
>>> come up if you are going to be living at home with them.  If you are
>>> going
>>> away to school, both the school has to permit you to have that dog
and
>>> your
>>> parents do not really have a voice in what decision you make about
>>> getting
>>> the dog especially when you are of the legal age 18.
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Mark J. Cadigan <kramc11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Mark J. Cadigan <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Got a question for the list
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 8:03 AM
>>>> Got a question for the list
>>>> I am still working on convincing my parents to allow me to
>>>> get a guide dog. I think I am going to apply and let the
>>>> parents know once I am accepted and already going to a
>>>> class. I will be leaving for college soon, and believe the
>>>> only way to get a guide dog is to just go do it. What
>>>> potential problems are there with this approach? By this I
>>>> mean, will schools accept me without talking to my parents?
>>>>
>>>> I have not given up on convincing my parents. I think the
>>>> process will be so much smoother with them supporting it.
>>>> However there support is not a necessity. I will be living
>>>> away at college and won't be seeing them regularly.
>>>>
>>>> Another question I have is, is there any literature out
>>>> there promoting the use of a guide dog. Most of the
>>>> literature published by organizations not affiliated with
>>>> the guide dog schools is either against dogs, or neutral on
>>>> the subject. Information published by the schools is biased
>>>> in favor of dogs. My parents highly value the opinions of
>>>> experts, so I think the key is to find a neutral expert that
>>>> agrees with me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all your help
>>>> Mark
>>>>
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>> -- 
>> Cheryl in Mexico
>> chapalacheryl at gmail.com
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