[nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found After5-MileBarefootWalk

Julie J julielj at windstream.net
Wed May 19 18:50:02 UTC 2010


Hmmm...I don't know about the legal issues, but I can tell you that I go to 
my kids school regularly with my guide dog.  I have never had an issue going 
into the classroom, lunchroom, gym, or to school sponsored events. I also 
mentor in the public school as well as assorted meetings and things in all 
of the schools related to my employment.  Honestly it never even occurred to 
me that my access with my guide could be questioned there.

Julie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found 
After5-MileBarefootWalk


> How would this work if you had a parent with a guide dog who
> needed/wanted to visit their kid's school? My understanding is that the
> school system cannot arr a parent from visiting their child's school.
> Anybody know?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Hope Paulos
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found After
> 5-MileBarefootWalk
>
>>From what ai understand-- I watched a video on this situation... The
> mother
> was the person handling the dog and only met them after school. So I'm
> not
> even sure if the dog attends school with the child.  You're correct,
> Katrin,
> re: allowing entrance of the guid/service dog into classrooms. I do
> presentations all the time at schools (and I have my teaching
> certification/finger printing)  which allows me access to classrooms
> with my
> guide dog.
> Hope and Beignet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Katrin Andberg" <katrin at maplewooddog.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:44 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Missing Washington Co. Boy Found After 5-Mile
> BarefootWalk
>
>
>> Actually I believe the differentiation as with all things regarding
>> service
>> dogs or guide dogs is the word "reasonableness."  Someone correct me
> if I
>> am
>> wrong but there is no law saying the school has to allow the dog in
> the
>> classroom.  Service dogs or guide dogs, even with an adult partner,
> would
>> need special accommodation anywhere that the general public is not
>> permitted
>> access, such as a classroom during teaching school hours.  If I were
> to
>> say
>> go to an open to the public function at my town high school, then yes
> I
>> would have to be granted entrance with my guide/service dog.  But if I
>
>> were
>> trying to gain entrance to a classroom where there where children
> being
>> taught then I would need special permission as that is not a place
> open to
>> the general public.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the dog to be allowed in the classroom with a disabled child the
> dog
>> must be the most reasonable accommodation.  And in most cases there
> are
>> other more reasonable ones.  Such as the child's 1 on 1 aid that most
>> severely disabled children have.  Also since the parent is generally
> the
>> handler of these dogs in these cases and not the child, there needs to
> be
>> someone present to handle the dog and that is not the school's
>> responsibility at all to provide.  So unless the parent wants to go to
>> school with their child to solely handle the dog (which has actually
>> happened in some cases I have heard about) then it generally doesn't
> make
>> much sense if you ask me.
>>
>>
>>
>> And as I understood it CCI does not place service dogs with young
>> children,
>> they place companion dogs with them.  But again someone correct me if
> I am
>> wrong on that knowledge.
>>
>>
>> Katrin
>>
>>
>>
>> Katrin Andberg
>>
>> Katrin at maplewooddog.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>
>>
>>
>> The autistic kid can have a service dog at school IF IT IS TRAINED to
> help
>>
>> his disability.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I think dogs in schools can be challenging because of the
>> imaturity
>>
>>
>> of the other kids.  When kids are given service dogs, the parents go
> to
>> the
>>
>> classes to learn about the dog as the kid does. The parents are the
> ones
>>
>> legally responsible for the dog's care and actions.  I guess this can
>> work -
>>
>>
>> CCI issues dogs to kids all the time and for many years.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it is different for blind kids and guide dogs. It is much more
>>
>> imperitive that a guide dog is not being destracted by everyone
> petting it
>>
>> because it has to watch out for obstacles - unlike a service dog for a
>>
>> sighted kid. Petting those won't always cause a dangerous situatin to
>> arise.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>>
>>
>>
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