[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: harnesses

Wed Nov 10 19:34:09 UTC 2010

Gary, 
You mentioned that you have a strong personality and that you used your
personality to allow you to keep your pup, when the school would have
normally taken him back. So, why not use your personality again and make
them understand. 
By your own admission, you've already done this once. Why not do it
again?

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of GARY STEEVES
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:01 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] harnesses

Hello Everyone:

I'm going to ask a question which will undoubtably get some people's
response. :) I asked my school about using another harness since I am
thinking about using the paw power sports harness on Bogart when we do
some summer hiking. After doing a hike with him this summer I think a
lighter harness designed for that type of action might work better. I
asked my school if  they had a policy about using other harnesses on
Bogart and, not surprisingly to me, they do have a policy forbidding the
use of other harnesses on their graduates. They are also a school that
maintains ownership of the dog which is a bit annoying but I doubt,
since I am a pretty strong advocate for what I need, will be an issue.
For example, Bogart had some sort of ceizure only 2 weeks after we got
home from training. Luckily the trainer was with us on a visit so she
witnessed what happend. If I had been an insecure person and didn't say
that I want to keep bogart since who knows if this will happen again,
they would have taken him back to the school with  them that day. I
think this would have happened with most schools since they were
concerned what I would do if he had another incident and I was by myself
but I was able to assure them I knew how to handle the situation and
always have a cane with me in case something was to happen to bogart
anyways. They respect my abilities and that was the end of the
conversation.

Oops, sort of side tracked. Does any other school have a similar harness
policy? Yeah, I know, what they don't know won't hurt them so I
certainly won't hesitate from buying a sport harness if I think it is
what is best for bogart and myself based on our activities.

Thanks
Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:36 am
Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> My brother has a GDB dog, and a detachable harness handle, and 
> it does not
> come flying off while he's working the dog.  Surely, if 
> that happened
> often, GDB would not issue them.
> I don't think GDB would sell a non-grad a harness.  It has 
> their name on
> it, after all.  Like asking Dodge to sell you their 
> trademark thingy to
> stick on your Chevy.
> 
> I haven't bought one, but I rather thought that the Pawpower harnesses
> would cost similar to what a school would charge a non-grad, if 
> you could
> get them to sell you one at all.
> Tracy
> 
> > Hi Listers,
> >
> >
> >
> > I know we have discussed this subject a lot on here, so 
> forgive me for
> > bringing it up again. So I called SE yesterday to see if they 
> would even
> > think of developing a harness for a grad, who needs a 
> removable handle.
> > And
> > they said they have tried, but can't make one that the handle 
> does not
> > deattach while working the dog. So here is my dilemma. With me 
> in cars,
> > and
> > on the go just much more in general. I am in desperate need of 
> a harness
> > that has a removable handle. I have seen the new GDB harness, 
> with the
> > quick
> > release handles. Does anyone have one? And have you noticed if 
> the handle
> > deattaches while working the dog? And is it possible for me, a 
> guide dog
> > user to get my hands on a GDB harness? My first pup was from 
> GDB, but when
> > I
> > retired her, they took back the harness. But that was not an 
> harness with
> > the quick release handle either. Didn't know if anyone else 
> has a dog from
> > one school, but uses a harness from a different school. Do the 
> schools> frown
> > upon this? Exchanging of harness and dogs? If this doesn't 
> work, I am
> > seriously thinking of purchasing a PawPowers harness.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for letting me ask questions,
> >
> > Marsha
> >
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