[nagdu] harnesses

Thu Nov 11 19:37:31 UTC 2010

That is a lot of time, it is much faster and efficient to have a harness
handle that comes off, instead of taking the whole harness off. 

JMO
Marsha

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses

how about just taking off the harness in those situations, guys?

Dan W.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Susan Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses

The handle is rigid and straight, to enable the dog to guide effectively,
make sharp turns, and slip through narrow spaces.
If you need to put your dog in a small space, such as a car with very little
room, or under the seat in front of you on an airplane, removing the handle
makes the dog fit better, and also allows for more flexibility & comfort.
HTH
Susan & Rhoda

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Of Jeffrey Young
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses

This may sound like a stupid question, but I haven't got my dog yet so I
don't fully understand everything that goes on?
Why does one need a harness with a detatchible handle? Is this kind of like
how some people prefer folding canes to rigid ones?

Thanks
Jeff Young
On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Tamara Smith-Kinney wrote:

> Yeeks!  I'm glad it was only the one seizure and that you stuck to 
> your guns.  The sport harness is terrific for hiking!
> 
> So I find myself wondering at the reasons for your program's policy 
> about harnesses...  Not that it matters to me, I just find it curious.
> 
> Tami Smith-Kinney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of GARY STEEVES
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> I'm going to ask a question which will undoubtably get some people's 
> response. :) I asked my school about using another harness since I am 
> thinking about using the paw power sports harness on Bogart when we do 
> some summer hiking. After doing a hike with him this summer I think a 
> lighter harness designed for that type of action might work better. I 
> asked my school if  they had a policy about using other harnesses on 
> Bogart and, not surprisingly to me, they do have a policy forbidding 
> the use of other harnesses on their graduates. They are also a school 
> that maintains ownership of the dog which is a bit annoying but I 
> doubt, since I am a pretty strong advocate for what I need, will be an 
> issue. For example, Bogart had some sort of ceizure only 2 weeks after 
> we got home from training. Luckily the trainer was with us on a visit 
> so she witnessed what happend. If I had been an insecure person and 
> didn't say that I want to keep bogart since who knows if this will 
> happen again, they would have taken him back to the school with  them 
> that day. I think this would have happened with most schools since 
> they were concerned what I would do if he had another incident and I 
> was by myself but I was able to assure them I knew how to handle the 
> situation and always have a cane with me in case something was to 
> happen to bogart anyways. They respect my abilities and that was the 
> end
of the conversation.
> 
> Oops, sort of side tracked. Does any other school have a similar 
> harness policy? Yeah, I know, what they don't know won't hurt them so 
> I certainly won't hesitate from buying a sport harness if I think it 
> is what is best for bogart and myself based on our activities.
> 
> Thanks
> Gary
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
>> My brother has a GDB dog, and a detachable harness handle, and it 
>> does not come flying off while he's working the dog.  Surely, if that 
>> happened often, GDB would not issue them.
>> I don't think GDB would sell a non-grad a harness.  It has their name 
>> on it, after all.  Like asking Dodge to sell you their trademark 
>> thingy to stick on your Chevy.
>> 
>> I haven't bought one, but I rather thought that the Pawpower 
>> harnesses would cost similar to what a school would charge a 
>> non-grad, if you could get them to sell you one at all.
>> Tracy
>> 
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know we have discussed this subject a lot on here, so
>> forgive me for
>>> bringing it up again. So I called SE yesterday to see if they
>> would even
>>> think of developing a harness for a grad, who needs a
>> removable handle.
>>> And
>>> they said they have tried, but can't make one that the handle
>> does not
>>> deattach while working the dog. So here is my dilemma. With me
>> in cars,
>>> and
>>> on the go just much more in general. I am in desperate need of
>> a harness
>>> that has a removable handle. I have seen the new GDB harness,
>> with the
>>> quick
>>> release handles. Does anyone have one? And have you noticed if
>> the handle
>>> deattaches while working the dog? And is it possible for me, a
>> guide dog
>>> user to get my hands on a GDB harness? My first pup was from
>> GDB, but when
>>> I
>>> retired her, they took back the harness. But that was not an
>> harness with
>>> the quick release handle either. Didn't know if anyone else
>> has a dog from
>>> one school, but uses a harness from a different school. Do the
>> schools> frown
>>> upon this? Exchanging of harness and dogs? If this doesn't
>> work, I am
>>> seriously thinking of purchasing a PawPowers harness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for letting me ask questions,
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
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