[nagdu] Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain sufferedserious injuries

Tue Oct 5 00:21:02 UTC 2010

Well, I beg to differ in that they will never know what happened as I
believe that there is a pretty good chance that they might be able to figure
out something if the security cameras which are ever-present with any
transit systemmost likely captured something.  Furthermore, if they do not
have anything that supports any claim she files, as mentioned with the
incident report, good luck with her being compensated for anything.  The
investigation could also potentially yield more through anything captured by
security cameras as well as eye-witness accounts.  So, although we may never
hear anything more about this particular incident, you can bet that there
will be more evidence, presented at some level to determine where the
liabilityfalls.

Just my opinion,
Steve

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why are we blaming or assuming what happened. The dog was hurt, we will
never know what happened.

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Johnson<mailto:stevencjohnson at centurytel.net>
  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
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  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain sufferedserious
injuries

  Mark, good point..  If this individual is experienced in using this
system,
  they should have known.  When in a crowded situation like this, I
generally
  to short leash and keep my guide by my side.  Sounds that there is a
  possibility that the handler was not fully aware of her dog's
where-abouts.
  Indeed though as Cheryl pointed, it is too bad, but the underlying
question
  is whose responsibility did it fall back on; SkyTrain or the handler?
  Probably not enough information to make that call as we can only make
  assumptions based on the little information we have.
  Steve

  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
  Of Mark J. Cadigan
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:13 AM
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  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain suffered serious
  injuries

  My question is, why did the dog get off? If that train system is anything
  like the T it is probably extremely crowded and, people push and shuv to
try
  to get off. The dog very well could have gotten pushed off the train by
  mistake.

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  Subject: [nagdu] Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain suffered serious injuries

  > Guide dog dragged from SkyTrain suffered 'serious injuries'
  > Passengers on the platform jumped into the track to rescue the
  > dog
  > By Tiffany Crawford, Vancouver Sun October 3, 2010
  > http://tinyurl.com/277d3uj<http://tinyurl.com/277d3uj>
  >
  >
  > Iris Thompson's guide dog, Palm, in recovery. The 5-year-old
  > labrador had a shattered nose, cracked ribs, and a punctured lung
  > after being dragged by a moving SkyTrain at Lougheed Station on
  > Thursday. People on the platform watched in horror after the
  > doors closed on the dog's leash, and the dog was dragged into a
  > pole at the end of the platform. Palm then fell into the tracks.
  >
  > Photograph by: Screengrab, Global BCA blind woman's guide dog who
  > was seriously injured after being dragged by the SkyTrain will
  > recover but likely will not be able to work with the blind again,
  > a TransLink spokesman said on Sunday.
  >
  > Ken Hardie said the incident happened around 10:30 a.m. Thursday
  > when the SkyTrain stopped at the Lougheed Station platform and
  > for some unknown reason the dog disembarked the train while the
  > woman did not.
  >
  > Riders watched in horror as the door closed and the dog started
  > running along the platform to keep up with the train before she
  > fell and was dragged along the platform.
  > "It was terribly traumatic," said Hardie. "The poor dog was
  > pulled off the platform and onto the track. In the process the
  > dog struck a post."
  > The leash was thin, he said, and it snapped just as the train
  > left the station.
  > Hardie said there are automatic sensors that cause the train to
  > stop if someone or something is on the tracks at the station but
  > because the dog didn't hit the tracks until just beyond the
  > platform, they didn't go off.
  > People immediately called SkyTrain security and the train was
  > stopped, said Hardie, adding that concerned citizens then jumped
  > onto the tracks to fetch the badly injured dog.
  > They heaved the dog off the tracks and sat comforting her while
  > they waited for help to arrive.
  > The dog's owner got off at the next stop and was helped home by
  > SkyTrain employees. Staff also took the dog to the veterinarian.
  > Hardie said the dog suffered a broken nose among other "serious
  > injuries" but said he is expected to survive.
  > "It may not work again as a guide dog but we don't know if that's
  > due to its actions of leaving the train too early or because of
  > the injuries."
  > The woman has filed an incident report, but Hardie could not say
  > whether she was seeking compensation from TransLink.
  > He said a full review will be conducted, which may include an
  > additional investigation with a provincial safety regulator to
  > see whether the system worked properly.
  > ticrawford at vancouversun.com<mailto:ticrawford at vancouversun.com>
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