[nagdu] Going to Jail

Sun Oct 17 04:43:11 UTC 2010

These programs of training dogs in prison is a great idea and a big help to 
the immates.

Several years ago, there was a show on Animal Planet called "Cell Dogs" 
where they featured a different prison and program each week.  It was 
amazing what effect the dogs had on the inmates and wish there were more 
programs of this kind.  One of the episodes featured a prison in Florida 
about the puppy raising behind bars for Southeastern Guide Dogs program.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail

> Marion,
>
> We recently had this question asked by a GDF grad who wished to visit a
> relative in prison and the prison officials were telling him that he could
> not bring his dog.
>
> I spoke with DOJ and they noted that unless it was a federal facility,
> prisons fell under Title II, state and local government, regulations. 
> Since
> these regulations use the same definitions for service animal and access
> with a service  animal, the facility must, if requested, make an effort to
> accommodate the person and his dog, unless the usual caveats apply that 
> you
> have already stated.
>
> I don't know how this case turned out as the person didn't let us know, 
> but
> the information was relayed to the prison officials.
>
> I have visited several prisons in the New York system when doing some
> writing about the Puppies Behind Bars program. My husband and I had our
> guide dogs in several areas of Fishkill Men's Correctional Facility and
> Bedford Hills Women's Correctional Facility with no problems. We were 
> always
> escorted by prison staff, PBB program volunteers or PBB program inmates 
> and
> at no time did I feel unsafe or as if my dog was causing any undo
> disruption.
>
> In fact, seeing the effect raising these puppies had on especially the 
> male
> inmates, was very profound for me. These people took their job of raising
> that well-socialized obedient and willing guide dog very seriously and
> really got more from the unconditional love the dogs gave them than they 
> put
> in.
>
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
> dear All,
>    I know there are those who would rather not take their dog to a prison.
> Similarly, there are those who would rather not take their guide to a zoo.
> On the other hand, there are those of us who have visited and want to 
> visit
> zoos with our guide dogs. In this case, we are talking about a prison, not 
> a
>
> zoo. Under what premise would a prison be allowed to refuse you the right 
> to
>
> be accompanied by a service animal?
>    I'm going to do some research - unless someone else would like to do
> it - to see if the DOJ has rendered any decisions on this issue. I would
> also like to hear valid arguments about whether or not a visitor's service
> animal should be allowed in a prison or jail. What if the person with the
> service animal is the inmate? Do these civil rights extend to inmates? I'd
> like to see arguments supported by an authoritative resource.
>    BTW, which title of the ADA would apply to this circumstance? HINT: you
> can find the text of the ADA at
>
> HTTP://WWW.ADA.GOV
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail
>
>
>>I dunno. Yes, there are puppy raisers in prisons, but they aren't maximum
>>security prisons.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Buddy, what could happen to your dog if you took him to a prison. Did 
>>> you
>
>>> all know that there are some prisons were puppy raising is happening?
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
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