[nagdu] Going to Jail

Mon Oct 18 17:12:10 UTC 2010

Jeanine, you are correct on your position as I myself went to the riverhead
jail. As a reasonable accommodation the head officer at the time suggested I
call ahead to alert them of my intended date of visitation. They explained
that in the event of a brawl or something worse, that it would be best for
security as well as the well being of the dog, that next time, call ahead
and they can make arrangements for a private face to face. He made his
position very clear, he completely understood mine, and a compromise was
made. I never had to call ahead next time as there never was a next time.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:08 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail

Marion, 

We recently had this question asked by a GDF grad who wished to visit a
relative in prison and the prison officials were telling him that he could
not bring his dog. 

I spoke with DOJ and they noted that unless it was a federal facility,
prisons fell under Title II, state and local government, regulations. Since
these regulations use the same definitions for service animal and access
with a service  animal, the facility must, if requested, make an effort to
accommodate the person and his dog, unless the usual caveats apply that you
have already stated. 

I don't know how this case turned out as the person didn't let us know, but
the information was relayed to the prison officials. 

I have visited several prisons in the New York system when doing some
writing about the Puppies Behind Bars program. My husband and I had our
guide dogs in several areas of Fishkill Men's Correctional Facility and
Bedford Hills Women's Correctional Facility with no problems. We were always
escorted by prison staff, PBB program volunteers or PBB program inmates and
at no time did I feel unsafe or as if my dog was causing any undo
disruption. 

In fact, seeing the effect raising these puppies had on especially the male
inmates, was very profound for me. These people took their job of raising
that well-socialized obedient and willing guide dog very seriously and
really got more from the unconditional love the dogs gave them than they put
in. 

Jenine Stanley
jeninems at wowway.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:39 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail

dear All,
    I know there are those who would rather not take their dog to a prison. 
Similarly, there are those who would rather not take their guide to a zoo. 
On the other hand, there are those of us who have visited and want to visit 
zoos with our guide dogs. In this case, we are talking about a prison, not a

zoo. Under what premise would a prison be allowed to refuse you the right to

be accompanied by a service animal?
    I'm going to do some research - unless someone else would like to do 
it - to see if the DOJ has rendered any decisions on this issue. I would 
also like to hear valid arguments about whether or not a visitor's service 
animal should be allowed in a prison or jail. What if the person with the 
service animal is the inmate? Do these civil rights extend to inmates? I'd 
like to see arguments supported by an authoritative resource.
    BTW, which title of the ADA would apply to this circumstance? HINT: you 
can find the text of the ADA at

HTTP://WWW.ADA.GOV

Fraternally yours,
Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Jail

>I dunno. Yes, there are puppy raisers in prisons, but they aren't maximum 
>security prisons.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>
>> Buddy, what could happen to your dog if you took him to a prison. Did you

>> all know that there are some prisons were puppy raising is happening?
>>
>> Cindy
>>
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