[nagdu] places a guide dog can't go

Thu Oct 28 00:28:52 UTC 2010

What about food preparation areas that are open to the public, such as
in a Jibachi grill? The food is prepared on a stovetop right in front
of people, so that is the food preparation area. Is there any
exception made in the ADA saying guide dogs can't be excluded from
these locales?

Also, I'd like to note that while petting zoos are usually open to
people with service animals, I think the real problem is with
open-area exhibits, such as bird- or monkey-houses, 'safaris' (where
people are driven through an open area where wild animals are living
on zoo property, and behind-the-scenes areas, such as backstage tours
of the veterinary buildings (where sick or injured animals may be
loose, and the public is welcome, but a dog may startle the sick or
injured animals). Those are the instances wehre I think it would be
appropriate for a zoo to say no to a service animal's accommpaniment.

On 10/27/10, Steve Johnson <stevencjohnson at centurytel.net> wrote:
> Julie,
>
> I can send you the training materials we had received from our Service Dog
> Symposium here in Wisconsin as the Federal portion covered many of the
> Federal laws in regards to access by animals.  Remember with the new changes
> that will be implemented on March 15, it is only the ADA that defines a
> service animal as being a dog or miniature horse, but other laws have
> different definitions.  It might be helpful as it will give some broad info
> to start researching from.
>
> Let me know if you would like this, and you can just email me off list to
> stevencjohnson at centurytel.net.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] places a guide dog can't go
>
> LOL  Confession time, I'm working on my book about guide dogs.  I have a
> couple of examples of places  that guides can be excluded, but I thought you
> guys might jog something loose in my head of other places or other issues I
> wanted to address.
>
> I promise not to use information or quotes from anyone without permission.
>
> thanks!
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] places a guide dog can't go
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>
>> And now I've got to ask, what are you doing with this information?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Julie J
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:18 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] places a guide dog can't go
>>
>> Hmmm, not sure.  they definitely wouldn't be if they participated in the
>>
>> government hot lunch program or got any other government money.    I'll
>> have
>> to think more on it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Julie
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julie McGinnity" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] places a guide dog can't go
>>
>>
>>> What about private schools?  I'm pretty sure they are not covered
>>> either.  I could be wrong about this though.  Not an expert on ADA.
>>>
>>> On 10/27/10, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>> I knew a guy who occasionally had to work in a "clean room" in a
>> factory.
>>>> Whatever was being made was very sensitive to dust and such.  He had
>> to
>>>> wear a special suit, and he couldn't have his dog with him.
>>>> That's not really a public access thing, though.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to come up with a list of places that are not covered
>> under
>>>>> the
>>>>> ADA in regard to public access.  I'm really struggling to come up
>> with
>>>>> very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I'm thinking:
>>>>> *places of religious worship, when there are no other programs open
>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> public or state or federal funds involved
>>>>> *private homes
>>>>> *sterile health care environments, like operating rooms
>>>>> *zoos when there is direct contact with animals
>>>>>
>>>>> Are these correct?  Are there any others that anyone can think of?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks much!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *
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