[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Motorized wheelchairs and scooters

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Fri Oct 29 13:30:43 UTC 2010


Hi Brenda.
Good on you!  It sounds like you are following a good path, learning to
use a cane and pursuing better training than you can get in your state.  A
lot of people losing their sight fight using a cane, even though they
really need one, and you have successfully gotten over that hurdle.
Really, it's a disgrace that there are so many state agencies giving poor
service.  Glad you're finding a way around yours.
Tracy

> Rebecca
>
> I do not use my husband as the gold standard for guiding, I just said he
> has almost gotten hit by several motorized vehicles and he can see them
> coming.  Sometimes they go fast and unlike cars go too fast in a
> building.  with the discussion of quiet cars that you cannot hear that I
> have found on this list, I wanted to know how a blind person could avoid
> this unforseen obstacle in a building.  From the answers I got, having a
> guide dog appears to me to be more helpful than a cane.
>
> I am slowly losing the rest of my vision.  As a high partial for many
> years, I was never given the opportunities blind people were as far as
> mobility training, Braille, etc.  I may well have benefited from a guide
> dog years ago, but high partials were never considered to need any type
> of a guide or mobility training.  I had to get by in the world between
> the sighted and the blind.   I have learned to function and accept
> myself as who I am as a high partial.  As I cross over, I have had to
> figure things out on my own as my state rehab agency is very unhelpful,
> and I believe even the mobility instructor thought I only needed a cane
> for identification.  The only mobility training I received is minimal
> street crossing.
>
> I believe a guide dog would suit my needs and  lifestyle, and my husband
> is not a good guide.  Also, I value my independence.  Realizing this, I
> have started using my cane full time and am planning on going to Leader
> Dogs to get accelerated mobility training.  I subscribe to this list to
> learn about guide dog issues as one day I will get a guide dog.  This is
> not an option at this point as our pet dog is unreceptive to other dogs
> and I will not give away a family member.  Besides, it will give me time
> to get proficient with cane mobility.
>
> I will continue to read and learn from this list.  I did learn a lot
> from the replies from Julie and others about my motorized vehicle in
> building question.
>
> Brenda
>
>
>
>
> On 10/29/2010 8:13 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>> Brenda,
>> What Julie and others have said are correct.
>> What I'd like to know is why you're using your husband as the gold
>> standard for guiding. Remember, your husband is there to shop, not
>> guide. He may guide you, but that isn't why he's there. Your dog will
>> have nothing else to do but guide.
>> What I'm getting is that your husband isprobably one heck of a person.
>> Still, his experiences don't transolate into your dog's job.
>> Also know that if you don't want to use your dog in this environment,
>> you don't have to. Many of us use our canes when we feel we need to. We
>> all have different scenarios when we do this, this may be yours. Nothing
>> wrong with that.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Julie J
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:02 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] Motorized wheelchairs and scooters
>>
>> Brenda,
>>
>> the dog will back up or move appropriately to keep you from contacting
>> any
>> moving object including wheelchairs, shopping carts, bicyclists,
>> skateboarders, and the like.
>>
>> I have always felt like people should take some responsibility for where
>>
>> they are and what is in their intended path.  Saying "excuse me" would
>> be
>> nice, but if you've ever shopped at Wal-Mart on Saturday morning...well,
>>
>> I've learned a new appreciation of Monty's quick reflexes. *smile*
>>
>> HTH
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
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