[nagdu] airline issues

Sat Oct 30 15:43:41 UTC 2010

Awesome!  What's funny is that I met another GDB puppy raiser yesterday.
Nice to get to know the folks who do the raising and the civilizing of so
many of our dogs.  /smile/  

Tami Smith-Kinney

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of peggy spiess
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:54 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] airline issues

Hello! I'm a puppy raiser and braillist in Oregon--I joined this group a few

months ago and have enjoyed reading the posts, many of which have been
really 
helpful in my job as an O&M assistant. 

The Sullenbergers (Captian Sully and family) are breeder-keepers for Guide
Dogs 
for the Blind. 

Thanks for letting me read your stories...
Peggy Spiess
Eugene, Oregon

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From: Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 9:59:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] airline issues

Hi Cheryl,
The Captian's nickname is Sully.  No, I didn't know he was a puppy raiser.
Do 
you know which school?  I'm not surprised Sully is a puppy raiser!

Take care,

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- From: "cheryl echevarria" 
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To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] airline issues

> I was fly southwest last year for Disney and the flight attendant was
giving us 
>a hard time, the Captain came out and said the the flight attendant, that
if she 
>does this one more time while she is on one of his flights he will ask for
her 
>to never fly on his flights.  She knew the rules and thought she could get
away 
>with it.
> 
> now this is what the captain said to me and the rest of the customers on
the 
>plane and please excuse the vulgarity.  The Captain said word for word "She
has 
>bigger stuff (changing word here) then I do".  Also said that Guide Dogs
are 
>service animals and this lady is blind and this will not be tolerated on my

>flights, um he is also a puppy raiser out in CA I found out.
> 
> Oh how many of you knew that Captain Skully that was the hero here in NY 2

>years ago is also a puppy raiser.
> 
> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
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>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Marion 
>Gwizdala<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>
>  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:07 AM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] airline issues
> 
> 
>  Jenine,
>      In 1988 I was dating a woman who had a guide dog, too. We were on our
>  way to a Florida affiliate convention and were sitting together with our
>  dogs, The flight attendant told us we couldn't sit together "because they
>  needed to balance the plane"! We refused to separate and the plane did
not
>  tip over! (smile)
> 
>  Fraternally yours,
>  Marion
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----  From: "Jenine Stanley" 
><jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>>
>  To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>  <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:10 PM
>  Subject: [nagdu] airline issues
> 
> 
>  >I think one of the most frustrating parts of the accessibility issues
>  > surrounding airlines is the extremely varied and generally often poor
>  > training and monitoring of staff.
>  >
>  > If I had a dime for every flight attendant who still tells me it's a
>  > federal
>  > law that I must sit in the bulkhead seat, I'd not have to work for a
>  > living.
>  > It never has been a federal law, ever.
>  >
>  > The strange ways the ACAA is interpreted during such trainings also
baffle
>  > me. Someone got the idea that having 2 people with assistance dogs
sitting
>  > in the same row was dangerous for the one next to the window and anyone
in
>  > the middle seat because they'd have to scramble over the dog under the
>  > aisle
>  > seat to get out. One would assume the person and dog in said aisle seat
>  > would have moved, but the flight attendant all but called me a smart
ass
>  > for
>  > asking her that question when she challenged my husband and I about
>  > sitting
>  > together. We didn't absolutely have to sit together, but why not?
That's
>  > where our tickets were. The middle seat was empty.
>  >
>  > The mildly amusing part of that story was that my husband was a pilot
>  > before
>  > his sight loss. He smiled and said that he'd probably know if there was
>  > something really wrong with the plane before she did and he didn't care
>  > who
>  > was in his way, me, her or anyone else. He was getting out. She said
maybe
>  > he should sit on the aisle then. Meanwhile I was on the phone to the
FAA
>  > hotline, and actually got a live person.
>  >
>  > Never got an apology from the flight attendant though. She apologized
to
>  > my
>  > husband but not me. <sigh>
>  >
>  > Somehow, I'm not sure how, we need to get ourselves, those of us with
>  > proven
>  > knowledge that is, into these trainings.
>  > Jenine Stanley
>  > jeninems at wowway.com<mailto:jeninems at wowway.com>
>  >
>  >
>  >
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