[nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it doesn'twork out with the first owner?
lirving1234 at cox.net
Thu Apr 14 08:24:20 UTC 2011
Hi there, Tami and Brittney,
The more I contemplate the re issuance of a guide dog, I keep thinking how
much it means to me when someone gives me a second chance. Our dogs deserve
as many chances as we can give them; first time out, or re issued.
Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it doesn'twork
out with the first owner?
> I'm glad you asked this question. That's one of those program policies I
> ran across while researching for owner-training, and my first response to
> the notion was very negative.
> Since then, I've heard of enough positive experience with dogs who were
> reissued after being returned to have a more favorable view of the
> Most of what I've heard is from people who have done well with re-issued
> dogs or from people who know people... /smile/ Still, I get it more now
> and understand the reasoning others have explained, and it does seem to
> for the most part. There will certainly be times when it doesn't, but
> is true of matches in general.
> As for whether you're over-reacting... As a still pretty new and only
> somewhat experienced guide dog handler, also an owner-trainer then
> self-taught handler, I've been observing the attitudes and ways of
> of handlers at or just above my level of experience as closely as I have
> those of the long-timers. I can watch my peers in that regard to give
> myself a reality check as to how I'm coming along not just in skill but in
> maturity as a handler while I'm learning from those with much more
> So here's my observation, based not just on myself but on a generalized
> group of other first time handlers going through or just coming past the
> team building phase: We over-react. To everything. /lol/ The good, the
> bad, the mundane... It is all new and exciting and frightening and
> wonderful and awful, all beyond belief. We popped out to dinner just this
> evening, and at the restaurant there was just this one little thing that
> one would have noticed beyond our table... Outwardly, I remained calm and
> responded correctly and it was all okay. Inwardly, what did I do? /lol/
> OMG! How can this be? What can it mean? Oh, no, this is so terrible!
> Then I noticed nothing had actually happened that was worth all the fuss
> got over it. /smile/ More and more, it's all old hat, but apparently I
> still freak out just fine over absolutely nothing.
> As for working through bad habits in your re-issue dog... I think others
> are right in their observations that during the first year or so, there
> always be something that will make you absolutely crazy about your dog.
> your first dog, these will be far more magnified in your own mind than in
> those you work with later on as a truly experience dhandler. The bad
> need to be dealt with and modified, certainly, but it's not really habit
> you yet to deal with those ups and downs. So you really have to think
> way through it and notice every little thing and try to figure out how to
> counteract and... Well, on and on. It just takes awhile for all of that
> become havit and natural. I've only been there for a short while -- with
> minor blips where I freak out over nothing -- and that sure is nice!
> Good luck with your dog; sounds like you're coming through the tream
> building phase and are starting on the next one -- which is where it all
> falls together and you're just you working your guide. /smile/ I'm
> that, and trying to hold onto that feeling as I move into the taking it
> for granted phase.
> Tami Smith-Kinney
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Brittney N. Mejico
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:20 PM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it doesn't work
> out with the first owner?
> Hello all,
> My dog had another handler before me. I don't think that guides should be
> given another handlerbecause the dog picksup a lot of bad habits and they
> are really hard to get rid of. I love my dog very muchand harvard has
> changed my life, but it took me a year to stop a lot of her bad habbits,
> we still have some work to do. What do you guys think? am I over
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