[nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it doesn'tworkout with the first owner?
linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Thu Apr 14 22:01:48 UTC 2011
I know a guy who had a guide who had been reissued. This dog was with a guy
who got himself arrested and a jail term and the dog was taken from him and
my friend got this same dog. Boy, what stories this dog could have told if
he could talk! It was a very nice dog and she worked well for my friend and
she had a good long working life.
Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it
doesn'tworkout with the first owner?
> Hi there, Tami and Brittney,
> The more I contemplate the re issuance of a guide dog, I keep thinking how
> much it means to me when someone gives me a second chance. Our dogs
> deserve as many chances as we can give them; first time out, or re issued.
> Lisa and Bernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it
> doesn'twork out with the first owner?
>> I'm glad you asked this question. That's one of those program policies I
>> ran across while researching for owner-training, and my first response to
>> the notion was very negative.
>> Since then, I've heard of enough positive experience with dogs who were
>> reissued after being returned to have a more favorable view of the
>> Most of what I've heard is from people who have done well with re-issued
>> dogs or from people who know people... /smile/ Still, I get it more now
>> and understand the reasoning others have explained, and it does seem to
>> for the most part. There will certainly be times when it doesn't, but
>> is true of matches in general.
>> As for whether you're over-reacting... As a still pretty new and only
>> somewhat experienced guide dog handler, also an owner-trainer then
>> self-taught handler, I've been observing the attitudes and ways of
>> of handlers at or just above my level of experience as closely as I have
>> those of the long-timers. I can watch my peers in that regard to give
>> myself a reality check as to how I'm coming along not just in skill but
>> maturity as a handler while I'm learning from those with much more
>> So here's my observation, based not just on myself but on a generalized
>> group of other first time handlers going through or just coming past the
>> team building phase: We over-react. To everything. /lol/ The good,
>> bad, the mundane... It is all new and exciting and frightening and
>> wonderful and awful, all beyond belief. We popped out to dinner just
>> evening, and at the restaurant there was just this one little thing that
>> one would have noticed beyond our table... Outwardly, I remained calm
>> responded correctly and it was all okay. Inwardly, what did I do? /lol/
>> OMG! How can this be? What can it mean? Oh, no, this is so terrible!
>> Then I noticed nothing had actually happened that was worth all the fuss
>> got over it. /smile/ More and more, it's all old hat, but apparently I
>> still freak out just fine over absolutely nothing.
>> As for working through bad habits in your re-issue dog... I think others
>> are right in their observations that during the first year or so, there
>> always be something that will make you absolutely crazy about your dog.
>> your first dog, these will be far more magnified in your own mind than in
>> those you work with later on as a truly experience dhandler. The bad
>> need to be dealt with and modified, certainly, but it's not really habit
>> you yet to deal with those ups and downs. So you really have to think
>> way through it and notice every little thing and try to figure out how to
>> counteract and... Well, on and on. It just takes awhile for all of that
>> become havit and natural. I've only been there for a short while -- with
>> minor blips where I freak out over nothing -- and that sure is nice!
>> Good luck with your dog; sounds like you're coming through the tream
>> building phase and are starting on the next one -- which is where it all
>> falls together and you're just you working your guide. /smile/ I'm
>> that, and trying to hold onto that feeling as I move into the taking it
>> for granted phase.
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:20 PM
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> Subject: [nagdu] should guides be given a second owner if it doesn't work
>> out with the first owner?
>> Hello all,
>> My dog had another handler before me. I don't think that guides should
>> given another handlerbecause the dog picksup a lot of bad habits and they
>> are really hard to get rid of. I love my dog very muchand harvard has
>> changed my life, but it took me a year to stop a lot of her bad habbits,
>> we still have some work to do. What do you guys think? am I over
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