[nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, Temperment, & Behavior

Wed Apr 20 13:11:26 UTC 2011

Excellent Lisa. Truly excellent. This should be printed and saved for all of us.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:46 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, Temperment, & Behavior

Rebecca,

I'm working with my third guide dog. While at  school last fall, I mentioned 
a hand full of times that my dog's stool was quite loose. Eventually, the 
veterinary staff put him on prescription food. It had little positive 
effect. I took matters into my hands and have put my dog on a primo dog 
food. He appears to have no signs of food allergies. I think, to a very 
minor extent, I'm still trying to make things better for my previous guide 
dog. Moreover, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not 
likely a turkey. I am convinced that Bernie does have mild food allergies. 
He's a happy camper, has a glossy coat and doesn't smell fishy after eating 
his salmon and barley  and veggies dog food.  My advice, make choices that 
are in the best interest of the dog. Don't make the choices based on 
feelings or emotions. Make them based on facts and observations.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, 
Temperment,& Behavior

> Lisa,
> Thank you for sharing about your guide dogs.
> I totally feel you on this topic. I suspect that both my dogs had health 
> problems, though never got confirmation. It screws with your head and with 
> your emotions, because the school tells you the dog is healthy yet you 
> observe things that do not meet this definition. When the mystique of 
> "healthy guide dog" is built up to the level that it is, the only logical 
> conclusion is that you are the one with the problem. It is a truly 
> horrible place to be.
> Britney, I disagree with your assersion on beggars.  In any other 
> industry, we have quality controls put in place along with disclosure of 
> potential problems.  There is no reason why guide dog schools cannot adopt 
> such practices.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lisa Irving
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:29 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, 
> Temperment, & Behavior
>
> Marion, I think Julie J. stated very accurately and stated stated 
> accurately
> and succinctly  what you're looking for
>
> I went six years between guide dogs for a variety of reasons. For the 
> first
> four or so years, it was the profound sense of guilt that I carried for
> seemingly failing my guide dog. I felt sick inside for the longest time
> because I scolded my guide dog for wetting in his kennel.. I was immensely
> frustrated because he smelled foul even after visits to the groomer's. I
> received a very curt note from the puppy raiser who took back my guide 
> dog.
> It was through the puppy raisers that I learned my dog was being treated 
> for
> multiple infections and allergies. I practically begged the school to let 
> me
> fly out to NY and bring my guide dog home. It was too late. They released
> him.
>
> I hope the Bill of Rights prevents another student from going through what 
> I
> went through,  -moreover, prevents a dog guide from suffering and being
> retired early.
>
> Lisa and Bernie---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, 
> Temperment,
> & Behavior
>
>
>> Cheryl,
>>    This is only one of many statements in the Bill of Rights that was
>> suggested by a previous message. The entire document will be sent out 
>> near
>> the end of the week after the Board endorses them.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>> Temperment,& Behavior
>>
>>
>>> what about anything in reference to removal of dog from school?
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: Marion Gwizdala<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>  To: NAGDU List<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 7:10 AM
>>>  Subject: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>>> Temperment,& Behavior
>>>
>>>
>>>  Dear All,
>>>      Here is the proposed language for the Bill of Rights, Please offer
>>> any input or suggestions you may have.
>>>
>>>  The training program shall fully disclose to the consumer, in writing
>>> and in the accessible format of the consumer's choice, all known issues
>>> concerning the dog's health, temperament, behavior, and training prior 
>>> to
>>> placement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Fraternally yours,
>>>
>>>  Marion
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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