[nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, Temperment, & Behavior

Thu Apr 21 04:27:28 UTC 2011

Rebecca,  Thanks for the compliment. I hope it encourages you to step out 
and step up doing what is best; not necessarily popular.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, 
Temperment,& Behavior

> Excellent Lisa. Truly excellent. This should be printed and saved for all 
> of us.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lisa Irving
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:46 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health, 
> Temperment, & Behavior
>
> Rebecca,
>
> I'm working with my third guide dog. While at  school last fall, I 
> mentioned
> a hand full of times that my dog's stool was quite loose. Eventually, the
> veterinary staff put him on prescription food. It had little positive
> effect. I took matters into my hands and have put my dog on a primo dog
> food. He appears to have no signs of food allergies. I think, to a very
> minor extent, I'm still trying to make things better for my previous guide
> dog. Moreover, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not
> likely a turkey. I am convinced that Bernie does have mild food allergies.
> He's a happy camper, has a glossy coat and doesn't smell fishy after 
> eating
> his salmon and barley  and veggies dog food.  My advice, make choices that
> are in the best interest of the dog. Don't make the choices based on
> feelings or emotions. Make them based on facts and observations.
>
> Lisa and Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
> Temperment,& Behavior
>
>
>> Lisa,
>> Thank you for sharing about your guide dogs.
>> I totally feel you on this topic. I suspect that both my dogs had health
>> problems, though never got confirmation. It screws with your head and 
>> with
>> your emotions, because the school tells you the dog is healthy yet you
>> observe things that do not meet this definition. When the mystique of
>> "healthy guide dog" is built up to the level that it is, the only logical
>> conclusion is that you are the one with the problem. It is a truly
>> horrible place to be.
>> Britney, I disagree with your assersion on beggars.  In any other
>> industry, we have quality controls put in place along with disclosure of
>> potential problems.  There is no reason why guide dog schools cannot 
>> adopt
>> such practices.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Lisa Irving
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:29 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>> Temperment, & Behavior
>>
>> Marion, I think Julie J. stated very accurately and stated stated
>> accurately
>> and succinctly  what you're looking for
>>
>> I went six years between guide dogs for a variety of reasons. For the
>> first
>> four or so years, it was the profound sense of guilt that I carried for
>> seemingly failing my guide dog. I felt sick inside for the longest time
>> because I scolded my guide dog for wetting in his kennel.. I was 
>> immensely
>> frustrated because he smelled foul even after visits to the groomer's. I
>> received a very curt note from the puppy raiser who took back my guide
>> dog.
>> It was through the puppy raisers that I learned my dog was being treated
>> for
>> multiple infections and allergies. I practically begged the school to let
>> me
>> fly out to NY and bring my guide dog home. It was too late. They released
>> him.
>>
>> I hope the Bill of Rights prevents another student from going through 
>> what
>> I
>> went through,  -moreover, prevents a dog guide from suffering and being
>> retired early.
>>
>> Lisa and Bernie---- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 5:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>> Temperment,
>> & Behavior
>>
>>
>>> Cheryl,
>>>    This is only one of many statements in the Bill of Rights that was
>>> suggested by a previous message. The entire document will be sent out
>>> near
>>> the end of the week after the Board endorses them.
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>>> Temperment,& Behavior
>>>
>>>
>>>> what about anything in reference to removal of dog from school?
>>>>
>>>> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>>>>
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>  From: Marion Gwizdala<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>>  To: NAGDU List<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 7:10 AM
>>>>  Subject: [nagdu] Bill of Rights statement Concerning Health,
>>>> Temperment,& Behavior
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Dear All,
>>>>      Here is the proposed language for the Bill of Rights, Please offer
>>>> any input or suggestions you may have.
>>>>
>>>>  The training program shall fully disclose to the consumer, in writing
>>>> and in the accessible format of the consumer's choice, all known issues
>>>> concerning the dog's health, temperament, behavior, and training prior
>>>> to
>>>> placement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Fraternally yours,
>>>>
>>>>  Marion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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