[nagdu] hotels

Fri Apr 29 07:41:01 UTC 2011

Parker,

Yes, you're right. The university has liability concerns. Those liability 
concerns could play out unfavorably in a court room if some one sued the 
university for infringing.

Lisa and Bernie
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From: "Owens, Parker" <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels

> Of course. However, the university cannot rely on this method, they have 
> liability.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lisa Irving
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
> Parker,
>
> The Resident Assistants are hired to assist everyone, including doormies
> with disabilities. Roomies can help one another as well as helping their
> neighbors. This is called a natural support. It replaces the need to 
> single
> out or to exclude some one, particularly some one with a disability.
>
> Lisa and Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Owens, Parker" <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>
>
>> Can you see where it gets tricky in a university situation though? Some 
>> of
>> those kids start before age 18.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:53 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>
>>    "better customer service" is never a "perk" when it is discriminatory.
>> Under Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act,
>>
>> "Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require an individual with a
>> disability to accept an accommodation, aid, service, opportunity, or
>> benefit
>> which such individual chooses not to accept." (42 USC 12201(d))
>>
>> Therefore, requiring a person to accept an accommodation because the
>> entity
>> perceives a "need" for such an accommodation when the person doesn't want
>> it
>> is considered discriminatory under the ADA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>>
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Owens, Parker" <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] hotels
>>
>>
>>> Here's something you may not have thought of. What if there were a fire
>>> in
>>> the building or some other emergency? They may have directives with the
>>> fire and police departments to check specific rooms first. In your case,
>>> no problem. But imagine someone else that needs assistance that has
>>> refused the 'accessible' room. You may not like it, but there are real
>>> reasons the hotel may want to make the employees aware of your visit.
>>> Better customer service is a perk, even though it is unequal.
>>>
>>> Where I work (a university), we have a box of information for emergency
>>> workers at each dorm, that tells the names of students and the location
>>> of
>>> the rooms for anyone that might require assistance. It may be a terrible
>>> invasion of privacy, but we are required to do this by the university
>>> safety office.
>>>
>>> I hope I am not offending anyone by mentioning the other side of this.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Julie J
>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:18 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] hotels
>>>
>>> I just had to write a quick vent before I head out for that training I'm
>>> going to.
>>>
>>> I work for the county, but this training is being paid for through a
>>> grant
>>> from a regional prevention agency.  They are paying or reimbursing all
>>> expenses, which is how I am able to go.  Throughout the year I attend
>>> other events sponsored by this agency.  They all know me and of course
>>> Monty.
>>>
>>> Here's the rough spot.  They set up the hotel as a direct bill to their
>>> agency, which means that I didn't make my own reservation.  You know
>>> where
>>> this is going.  They told the hotel that I'm blind, have a guide dog, 
>>> but
>>> that I'm very independent and they don't need to worry about me.  AARGH!
>>> just AARGH!
>>>
>>> So I've been told that the hotel has no problem with the dog.  Yeah, I
>>> was
>>> real worried about that.  I have also been put on the first floor, which
>>> I
>>> don't care one way or another about.  But I am oh so relieved to know
>>> that
>>> the hotel is okay with me coming! *sarcastic smile*
>>>
>>> There's nothing to be done about it really.  I did try to explain to the
>>> lady who made the reservation for me that all of that extra info was
>>> unnecessary and that I'm pretty well  accustomed to speaking up for
>>> myself
>>> and my rights.
>>>
>>> I hope the next few days are not one long saga like this.
>>>
>>> Julie
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