[nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go

Lisa Irving lirving1234 at cox.net
Sat Apr 30 00:59:34 UTC 2011


Tami,

Just a quick vent here. I had very frustrating experiences trying to access 
domestic violence resources here in San Diego. I was going through my 
personal Hell and still had to "advocate" and "educate" those who said, all 
are welcome.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go


> Marsha,
>
> Oh, I am so with you there.  In my ongoing struggle to acquire the 
> resources
> I need to buy the tools I need now that I am blind because all those years
> of tax dollars I paid and the hidden taxes I'm still paying sure aren't
> doing the trick, I've found an awful about just how harmful and how
> widespread those attitudes are throughout the various levels of resource
> providers who are the most avid promulgators.  Yet these are the first to
> look people in the eye and say with all seriousness that they just want to
> help the blind by making them feel better about themselves.  What's really
> scary to me is how many people believe that, and how many of those are the
> blind people who are being deprived of those resources.
>
> Doing whatever we can do to break that self-reinforcing myth is the only 
> way
> to break it.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:57 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go
>
> All,
>
> I was by no means saying his actions or what he does not feel comfortable 
> is
> wrong. What I dislike are the misconceptions that the public will have 
> after
> a story like this. People reading that story now think, oh that poor blind
> man. And just like I said there are "some" schools, who play into that
> thinking, of poor blind people.
>
> We all have differing abilities, I am by no means judging him for it. I 
> hate
> the slant the reporter put on this story.
>
> One more reason we have to fight so hard, to break those misconceptions.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:49 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go
>
> This is an older gentleman.  He may well have become blind when cane
> skills were not really taught, or taught with a short cane.  Or, I don't
> know about in the UK, but in the US, many older people have trouble
> getting any kind of blind guy training, including cane skills.  Or, the
> ever-present possibility, the journalist is playing up the poor blind guy
> angle.
> When I'm between dogs, I *hate* going into New York with my cane.  I can,
> but I sure don't like it.  If I said as much to a reporter, wanna bet he'd
> turn "don't like" into "can't"? And GDBA seems to play the poor blind guy
> card way more than any school here could get away with, IMO.
> And Lisa, while I appreciate your sentiments, the UK is not a third-world
> country!
> Tracy
>
>> Your completely correct, oh the poor blind man, who can't navigate with
>> out
>> his dog. This is the same ploy that most of the guide dog schools play
>> into,
>> if you get this wonderful amazing dog, you will be this super blindie, 
>> and
>> be able to go any where and do anything. LOL I am sure he needs his pup,
>> jus
>> like all of us think we need our pups. And yes it might be true that he
>> may
>> not have good cane travel skills. But again this is something the school
>> should have made sure BEFORE giving him a dog.
>>
>> Just my two cents!
>> Marsha
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:47 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go
>>
>> I don't know what to say I like the fact that Mr. GRANVILLE Vaughan  is
>> trying to do something about loose dogs and that's sad his dog had to
>> retire. I have one issue him saying
>> "I try to get out with my cane but it's not so easy. I've hardly
>> been out recently. I feel like a prisoner here."  Makes us blind people
>> look
>>
>> helpless without them smart dogs to lead us.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ginger Kutsch
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:39 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] UK: Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go
>>
>> Heartbreak' as bitten Newport guide dog must go
>> Wednesday 27th April 2011
>> South Wales Argus, UK
>>
>> GRANVILLE Vaughan and guide dog Nadia have been inseparable for
>> five years - but he must now give her up after she was attacked
>> by a loose dog.
>>
>> Now 66-year-old Mr Vaughan, from Somerton Park, Newport, is
>> calling for people not to let dogs run loose on the streets, and
>> for laws on dog ownership and control to be tightened.
>>
>> Nadia, a black labrador, was bitten by a Jack Russell terrier on
>> Cromwell Road, several weeks ago, and has since become wary of
>> other dogs, unable to focus on the vital job of helping Mr
>> Vaughan get around.
>>
>> She has now been retired by the Guide Dogs Association and Mr
>> Vaughan must wait to get another dog, a process that can take
>> several months.
>>
>> "It broke my heart when they took her harness away, but she won't
>> work on it anymore. She's spinning around looking for other dogs,
>> and could knock me over,"
>>
>> said Mr Vaughan, who is completely blind due to an hereditary eye
>> disorder.
>>
>> "She was seven earlier this month and had a couple of years left
>> before retiring. I've had her five-and-a-half years, and she was
>> my eyes.
>>
>> "I try to get out with my cane but it's not so easy. I've hardly
>> been out recently. I feel like a prisoner here."
>>
>> Nadia will be re-homed in Newport, with someone who takes her in
>> when Mr Vaughan is ill.
>>
>> "This is a waste, a real shame, and it shouldn't have happened.
>> People don't realise what can happen, letting dogs run loose.
>> It's irresponsible and something should be done," he said.
>>
>> Source: http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk
>> <http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/>
>>
>>
>>
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