[nagdu] dogs with transportation
Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
Mon Aug 1 15:00:40 UTC 2011
I think "The look" is more about energy and projecting that energy then anything else. Likewise, you can feel when someone is giving "the look"
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Kinney
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:51 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs with transportation
Yup. That slight leaning forward while speaking calmly is what The Look
is all about. /smile/ I've been really relieved to learn that even
though I can't tell for sure if I'm making the direct eye contact that
was a key component of it, as well, when I could see into the person's
eyes, that the posture and the blank stare in the right direction do do
the trick. Saves on all sorts of arguments with people who are simply
trying to bluff and bully. Knowing the law and your own rights is also
very helpful, as you noted. She may have been bluffing, but you weren't
and knew it, and I'm sure that showed. Hm... I wonder if your designer
dog was giving her the GSD look at the same time. I hope she was using
it to tell the flight attendant to sit down and behave herself! /lol/
Tami
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 19:18 -0500, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> I had to use that trick last year when a flight attendant told me that
> she had to put the dog's harness up in the storage area so it didn't
> fly out and hit someone. I said that the harness wouldn't fly up since
> it was between the wall of the plane and my seat, but the flight
> attendant insisted. she then said that it said so in their manual.
> Having read the Southwest policy for folk with service animals a few
> months prior, I said, "Ok, why don't you pull out those regulations
> and let's take a look at them." Without missing a beat, she said,
> "Well, if you put the harness under your seat then that would be all
> right." To which I agreed. When I asked her to pull out the
> regulations I was speking calmly, but the friend that was with me said
> that my posture was ever so slightly forward. She told me later that
> she knew I meant business and was perfectly willing to let me handle
> it. Friends are great, :)
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/30/11, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Never mind I got all the info on the teleconference call. Thanks anyway.
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marion Gwizdala<mailto:blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> > Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs with transportation
> >
> >
> > Cindy,
> > I had a flight attendant tell me the same thing. I handed her my
> > business card and said, I think I know a little more about the Air Carrier
> > Access Act than you think I do!" and took my seat!
> >
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com<mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs with transportation
> >
> >
> > > Did she actually read such a law cause there is no such law. I had
> > someone
> > > tell me that on the plane before and I said there wasn't. This employee
> > > had walked on with me and said he didn't get it because he had
> > accompanied
> > > blind people and dogs onto the plane all the time and hadn't found them
> > to
> > > have that kind of requirement.
> > >
> > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:23 PM, The Pawpower Pack wrote:
> > >
> > >> Last time I flew, a flight attended insisted that I sit in bulkhead.
> > >> Even though I'd picked my seat already when I bought the flight, and my
> > >> seat wasn't bulkhead. The attendant told me that the law states that
> > >> bulk is where they put quote, "people like you." I asked what she
> > meant
> > >> by "people like me." Deaf people? Blind people? Deafblind people?
> > >> Red-headed fat people, or what? Then I said that I wanted her to go
> > look
> > >> up the relevant sections of the law and when she found them and read
> > them
> > >> to me, I would comply with whatever the law stated. I had tried being
> > >> nice, I had tried explaining the law. However she wasn't listening.
> > So
> > >> I stood there while she went to look up the relevant section of the
> > law,
> > >> and then I took the seat I had chosen to begin with, after she read the
> > >> law.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> > >> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD and Laveau guide dog, CGC.
> > >> Do not meddle in the affaires of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
> > >> good with ketchup.
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> > >> pawpower4me at gmail.com<mailto:pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > >> AIM: lillebriss
> > >>
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