[nagdu] dogs in harness and ID's

Marion Gwizdala blind411 at verizon.net
Mon Aug 1 20:13:55 UTC 2011


Buddy,
    UI especially like tthe God feedback from my dog! (grin)

Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs in harness and ID's


> Hey Jenny, ol' friend :)
>
> The ADA trumps state law. Actually, whichever law grants the greater 
> rights wins, but federal law will take precedence.
>
> As for the Paw Power harnesses. Have one. Well, I have two, sort of, one 
> was made before Rox'e and Bob took over from Julie. Anyway, they're light, 
> durable, well constructed, reasonably priced, washable, need I go on? I 
> think they also give you really god feedback from your dog. I just got the 
> Laveau style harness, which is like the sports style but with ears to hold 
> the handle down so you can't as easily over walk your dog. My primary 
> reason for getting one was the removable handle. Don't let the fact that 
> they use plastic backpack type clips to hold the handle on and the strap 
> closed fool you. These are heavy duty clips, and I think you'd have to 
> really try to break them.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Jennifer Piening wrote:
>
>> Greetings!  I'm wondering if there are times when state laws can preempt 
>> the ADA.  I had a strange experience a couple of months ago.  My husband, 
>> who has a service dog, and my guide dog and I went to this restaurant in 
>> Michigan, ironically called the Stray Dog Cafe, and the manager 
>> approached us and said that Michigan had a new state law requiring us to 
>> show ID that our dogs are indeed working dogs.  I didn't have my ID with 
>> me, because I've never been asked to show it, and it doesn't fit in a 
>> card slot in my wallet. My husband doesn't have one for his service dog, 
>> and his dog doesn't wear a vest either.  I was kind of dumbfounded, and 
>> said with surprise that I'd never heard of that particular law before, 
>> and that I wanted some information explaining the law.  The manager 
>> didn't have any information available, so we just sort of stood there, 
>> blocking traffic, and said that we had been to many places in Michigan 
>> and had never been confronted with this sort of treatment. She
> eventually gave in and let us eat at the restaurant, which was over priced 
> and not very good, but anyway...  I'm wondering if anybody has heard of 
> such a law. Can states make their own laws that are in conflict with those 
> of the ADA?
>>     I'd also like to know more about the toileting and paw power 
>> harnesses.
>>     Thanks for any input and take care.
>>     Jenny
>>
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