[nagdu] Dog IDs

[Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)]

Larry, are you familiar with New Zealand and how guide dogs work over there? 
I ask this because apparently only the guide dog school can sertify an owner-trained dog. And they have no insentive to do this. 


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog IDs

In the case of the person I know, maybe the ID would give the school of 
origin so the person could be reported.  I think if you train your own dogs 
you should be able to get a certificate from somewhere proving the dog is 
trained.  I also think pit bull owners should have to apply for or take 
classes in obedience training to ensure that they can control there dogs.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog IDs


> Larry,
>
> I understand that you were giving an example of bad behavior and an 
> irresponsible owner.  My  concern is that an ID didn't do anything to 
> prevent this situation.   My question is still how does having an ID card 
> prevent a dog from misbehaving or a handler from neglecting basic 
> grooming?
>
> Just so you know, I train my own guides.  My owner trained guide goes with 
> me to work, to restaurants, to the bank, post office, to meetings in 
> various locations and quite a few other places.  I do not have any sort of 
> ID.  I could create something on my computer and laminate it, but I choose 
> not to, because ID is not legally required.  I believe that the dog's 
> behavior speaks louder than any sort of ID card ever could.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 8/1/2011 8:10 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> Sorry, that was an example of just bad behavior.  I mentioned it because 
>> sometimes folks that do that kind of thing reflect on us.  In that 
>> example, he didn't groom his dog properly and whenI got hHolly and went 
>> to the same restraunt he did, I heard the owner mention that Holly was 
>> clean unlike that other dog that came in!  My real point about IDs is 
>> that to many people are slipping dogs under the radar as service dogs 
>> when they are not.  A story told by a disc jocky in the Ann Arbor area 
>> points this out.  He was flying somewhere and a woman sitting next to him 
>> had a miniture poodle on her lap.  I love those things and when I was a 
>> teenager, I used to breed them.  I went to Pilot precisely because they 
>> bred poodles!  The woman claimed that she needed the woman for emotional 
>> support because she was scared of flying.  Apparently, the plane hit 
>> turbulance and she didn't even reach for the dog.  To all appearances, it 
>> sure seemed like the dog was claimed that way to get out of paying for it 
>> to ride underneath.  A couple of weeks after that, on one of the Detroit 
>> tv stations, they showed a article on people doing this sort of thing. 
>> The article included a segment on things such as buying harnesses, vests 
>> and IDs on the internet!  My daughter has a friend who claims her dog is 
>> a hearing assistant.  She baught a vest for 40 dollars at a store.  The 
>> thing is a Jack Russel terrier and I have seen it!  It barely knows 
>> obedience training!
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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