[nagdu] Dog IDs

Tue Aug 2 19:56:37 UTC 2011

No, I'm not.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog IDs


> Larry, are you familiar with New Zealand and how guide dogs work over 
> there?
> I ask this because apparently only the guide dog school can sertify an 
> owner-trained dog. And they have no insentive to do this.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:26 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog IDs
>
> In the case of the person I know, maybe the ID would give the school of
> origin so the person could be reported.  I think if you train your own 
> dogs
> you should be able to get a certificate from somewhere proving the dog is
> trained.  I also think pit bull owners should have to apply for or take
> classes in obedience training to ensure that they can control there dogs.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog IDs
>
>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I understand that you were giving an example of bad behavior and an
>> irresponsible owner.  My  concern is that an ID didn't do anything to
>> prevent this situation.   My question is still how does having an ID card
>> prevent a dog from misbehaving or a handler from neglecting basic
>> grooming?
>>
>> Just so you know, I train my own guides.  My owner trained guide goes 
>> with
>> me to work, to restaurants, to the bank, post office, to meetings in
>> various locations and quite a few other places.  I do not have any sort 
>> of
>> ID.  I could create something on my computer and laminate it, but I 
>> choose
>> not to, because ID is not legally required.  I believe that the dog's
>> behavior speaks louder than any sort of ID card ever could.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/2011 8:10 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> Sorry, that was an example of just bad behavior.  I mentioned it because
>>> sometimes folks that do that kind of thing reflect on us.  In that
>>> example, he didn't groom his dog properly and whenI got hHolly and went
>>> to the same restraunt he did, I heard the owner mention that Holly was
>>> clean unlike that other dog that came in!  My real point about IDs is
>>> that to many people are slipping dogs under the radar as service dogs
>>> when they are not.  A story told by a disc jocky in the Ann Arbor area
>>> points this out.  He was flying somewhere and a woman sitting next to 
>>> him
>>> had a miniture poodle on her lap.  I love those things and when I was a
>>> teenager, I used to breed them.  I went to Pilot precisely because they
>>> bred poodles!  The woman claimed that she needed the woman for emotional
>>> support because she was scared of flying.  Apparently, the plane hit
>>> turbulance and she didn't even reach for the dog.  To all appearances, 
>>> it
>>> sure seemed like the dog was claimed that way to get out of paying for 
>>> it
>>> to ride underneath.  A couple of weeks after that, on one of the Detroit
>>> tv stations, they showed a article on people doing this sort of thing.
>>> The article included a segment on things such as buying harnesses, vests
>>> and IDs on the internet!  My daughter has a friend who claims her dog is
>>> a hearing assistant.  She baught a vest for 40 dollars at a store.  The
>>> thing is a Jack Russel terrier and I have seen it!  It barely knows
>>> obedience training!
>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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