[nagdu] School Contracts

[Marion Gwizdala]

    When I sat on Southeastern Guide Dogs' Graduate Advisory Council, I 
advocated for a change in the policy. At the time, SEGDI did not transfer 
ownership upon completion of training. Nearly every other member of the 
Council took my arguments as anti SEGDI, stating they had no issues with the 
policy nor believed anyone from the program would interfere with the 
possession of the dog. I stated that an agreement is binding between the 
individual and the program, not the individuals who operate the program. If 
there were to be a change in the administration, the agreement would allow 
the new administration rights over the dog and we would have no recourse 
should that administration be oppressive. The policy was changed and SEGDI 
consumer now have ownership of their dogs upon completion of training.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Contracts


> GDB sends the contract as part of the student's acceptance package, so you
> have it even before you go for training.  Unless things have changed in 
> the
> last couple years, you can request ownership after a year.  I never cared
> about it in the past, as to me, mostly, it's just a piece of paper, and
> there's no difference in the benefits.  But, for personal reasons I won't
> discuss on a list, I asked for ownership of Olga as soon as my year was up
> and I have  the piece of paper to show that she is mine.  It's 
> unconditional
> ownership, thank God.
>
> Sherry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:16 PM
> To: doggie
> Subject: [nagdu] School Contracts
>
> Well said Marion and you are right!  My experience at Pilot was that parts
> of the contract were talked about throughout the training and a couple of
> days before we got our dogs it was read to us.  Of course, if we didn't
> sign, we didn't get the dogs so again, you are perfectly right!  The point
> is whether or not you care where the ownership goes, be familiar with the
> contract before signing.  If we asked, we could have seen the contract 
> early
> in the training.  As far as abuse goes, again you are perfectly on target!
> The schools seem to be slower to react than the community but the 
> community
> doesn't want to touch the idea of abusing a service dog.  Someone in this
> area is clearly abusing there dog and he has been reported to the Humnane
> Society and other county authorities.  Thes people have done nothing!  I
> don't know the person but I heard of the situation while sitting in front 
> of
> a local restraunt.  I was petting and generally messing with Holly, sort 
> of
> playing with her while waiting for friends.  A woman was amazed I was 
> doing
> this because all she saw was a dude yelling, dragging and hitting his dog.
> I informed her that most of us deffinately did not do this and she told me
> the story.  I told her to if she could look at the tag and see what school
> the dog came from.  Don't know what happened.  Cindy, that's why you 
> should
> demand to have whatever is not understood in the contract to you.  If the
> thing says we can take your dog because we want to and you sign it, well, 
> I
> think they can!
> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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