[nagdu] School Contracts

[Sean Moore]

you know i'm happy I own my boy. Now if Southeastern would have more then 
Heidi doing follow up .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Contracts


>    When I sat on Southeastern Guide Dogs' Graduate Advisory Council, I 
> advocated for a change in the policy. At the time, SEGDI did not transfer 
> ownership upon completion of training. Nearly every other member of the 
> Council took my arguments as anti SEGDI, stating they had no issues with 
> the policy nor believed anyone from the program would interfere with the 
> possession of the dog. I stated that an agreement is binding between the 
> individual and the program, not the individuals who operate the program. 
> If there were to be a change in the administration, the agreement would 
> allow the new administration rights over the dog and we would have no 
> recourse should that administration be oppressive. The policy was changed 
> and SEGDI consumer now have ownership of their dogs upon completion of 
> training.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] School Contracts
>
>
>> GDB sends the contract as part of the student's acceptance package, so 
>> you
>> have it even before you go for training.  Unless things have changed in 
>> the
>> last couple years, you can request ownership after a year.  I never cared
>> about it in the past, as to me, mostly, it's just a piece of paper, and
>> there's no difference in the benefits.  But, for personal reasons I won't
>> discuss on a list, I asked for ownership of Olga as soon as my year was 
>> up
>> and I have  the piece of paper to show that she is mine.  It's 
>> unconditional
>> ownership, thank God.
>>
>> Sherry
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:16 PM
>> To: doggie
>> Subject: [nagdu] School Contracts
>>
>> Well said Marion and you are right!  My experience at Pilot was that 
>> parts
>> of the contract were talked about throughout the training and a couple of
>> days before we got our dogs it was read to us.  Of course, if we didn't
>> sign, we didn't get the dogs so again, you are perfectly right!  The 
>> point
>> is whether or not you care where the ownership goes, be familiar with the
>> contract before signing.  If we asked, we could have seen the contract 
>> early
>> in the training.  As far as abuse goes, again you are perfectly on 
>> target!
>> The schools seem to be slower to react than the community but the 
>> community
>> doesn't want to touch the idea of abusing a service dog.  Someone in this
>> area is clearly abusing there dog and he has been reported to the Humnane
>> Society and other county authorities.  Thes people have done nothing!  I
>> don't know the person but I heard of the situation while sitting in front 
>> of
>> a local restraunt.  I was petting and generally messing with Holly, sort 
>> of
>> playing with her while waiting for friends.  A woman was amazed I was 
>> doing
>> this because all she saw was a dude yelling, dragging and hitting his 
>> dog.
>> I informed her that most of us deffinately did not do this and she told 
>> me
>> the story.  I told her to if she could look at the tag and see what 
>> school
>> the dog came from.  Don't know what happened.  Cindy, that's why you 
>> should
>> demand to have whatever is not understood in the contract to you.  If the
>> thing says we can take your dog because we want to and you sign it, well, 
>> I
>> think they can!
>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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