[nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will recover

Fri Aug 26 17:27:50 UTC 2011

Ummm...Cheryl, I didn't think I jumped all over you or was 
unprofessional.  I simply disagree with your take on this situation. I 
was offering up some discussion ideas as to why I think differently 
about this.  I'm sorry you found it to be upsetting.

Julie

On 8/26/2011 8:39 AM, cheryl echevarria wrote:
> Julie,
>
> Myself from someone who used to drive, and never thank god hit anyone, how
> do we know what exactly happened, we don't' know I am now blind, and of
> course understand a lot more than I used to but to jump all over me, in my
> mind is not professional. It is not that I was being cynical or something to
> the fact at all.
>
>
> Yes someone is paying dearly for the mistake, which is the guilt that those
> 2 drivers will have carry the rest of their lives. I can understand if they
> didn't stop and help, which they did, I am also sure that they were
> questioned by the police and the family.
>
> If in your own words and 8 year old child, maybe ran out in the street
> alone, it could have happened as well, and I am sure if it was the Mayor's
> child you know of course it would be all over the news, etc.  If it was
> someone else's kid 8 years old not the Mayor's child that did the same thing
> sighted or blind, would probably not make the headlines as well.
>
> Making turns when driving sometimes you cannot see what is going on after
> the turn. Yes the driver's should have slowed down if they knew that the
> turn is that bad, etc.
>
> They might have gotten tickets for like you said negligence for going to
> fast etc.  We don't know that in this story.
>
> Unfortunately it was a horrible accident.
>
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J."<julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service
> dog will recover
>
>
>> Cheryl,
>>
>> Do you think no one would have been charged with anything if it had been
>> let's say the mayor's 8 year old daughter or maybe the owner of the bank
>> who has donated thousands of dollars to the local homeless shelter?  I
>> kind of think people would have been in a froth to place the blame on
>> someone.  People would want to know that justice had been served or
>> maybe it should be called revenge, but either way someone would have
>> been paying dearly for their mistake.  However it was a blind man, who
>> people just don't view in the same way as being a value to the
>> community.  Sure it was an accident, most things of this sort are.
>> Still it doesn't matter.  Even in accidents where no one gets hurt
>> generally someone gets a ticket for failure to yield or something.  If
>> nothing else pedestrians have the right of way and blind pedestrians
>> have even more protections, but not even those laws seem to have been
>> applied here.
>>
>> I can understand not charging the drivers with murder because that isn't
>> what happened, but what about some sort of negligence?  That seems
>> appropriate to me.
>>
>> JMHO
>> Julie
>>
>>> Julie it was an accident, from reading the story, that the first car
>>> should
>>> have slowed down when making a turn maybe couldn't swerve enough, the
>>> trucker who knows.
>>>
>>> If it was on purpose then they would have been arrested, I am sure that
>>> the
>>> 2 were questioned at the accident. I mean police had to be called in
>>> situations like this.
>>>
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>>>
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>>> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>>>
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>>> Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julie Phillipson"<jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian;his
>>> service
>>> dog will recover
>>>
>>>
>>>> that was my first thought too.  Why are there no charges the driver of
>>>> the
>>>> truck didn't see what happened right in front of him?  Give me a brake!
>>>> Julie Phillipson
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione"<carcione at access.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his
>>>> service
>>>> dog will recover
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course neither driver has been charged.  I bet neither one ever
>>>>> will
>>>>> be.  It seems like killing a blind guy is a no-fault non-crime. Too
>>>>> bad,
>>>>> so sad, oh well.
>>>>> I'm really getting sick of it.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will
>>>>>> recover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> August 24, 2011
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-neighbors-mourn-pedestrian-blind-man-killed-wh
>>>>>> ile-service-dog-recovers-20110824,0,6132815.story
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RICHMOND (WTVR)-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neighbors of a blind Richmond man are mourning his accidental death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "He was one of the sweetest neighbors that you would want in your
>>>>>> community," said neighbor Dianna Harrison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seventy-four year old Dudley Mines will be missed. Neighbors say you
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> see him and his seeing eye dog Romeo walking their streets several
>>>>>> times
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> day.  He was doing just that Monday night. He was crossing the road
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> corner of Old Brook and Bellvue Road in North Richmond. A car turning
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> corner grazed Mines and knocked him over. Moments later a truck would
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> the turn and run over Mines and his dog. Both drivers stopped to help
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> was too late. The accident killed Mines and left Romeo with serious
>>>>>> injuries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "We just want to thank God for the time he allowed him in our lives,"
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> Harrison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neighbors are preparing for a vigil tomorrow night. Mines three
>>>>>> children
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> also involved in the planning. Signs of sympathy lay outside his home
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> there's been sympathy shown in other ways too..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "There was really a coming together to help Romeo," said Veterinarian
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> Lippo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The six year old black lab suffered cuts, bruising and a broken leg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "With some pain medication some fluids and antibiotics he turned
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> pretty quickly became stable very quickly," said Lippo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wednesday the dog had surgery to secure his leg. Lippo says the
>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>> between a seeing eye dog and it's owner is a special one and is
>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>> irreplaceable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "These seeing eye dogs lived with owners for a long time so long
>>>>>> Romeo
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> lost a member of his family," said Lippo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A funeral for Dudley Mines will be held on Saturday at 2pm Watkins
>>>>>> funeral
>>>>>> home. Neither driver has been charged in the incident. Police say
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> investigation is ongoing. Mines daughter says once he recovers she
>>>>>> plans
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> adopt Romeo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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