[nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will recover

Sat Aug 27 16:42:41 UTC 2011

Yup! Also, there's a lot of vague wording that makes it impossible to
have a clue how it all went down. And a lot of emotional loading. In
other words, to me it reads more like an 8th-grade creative writing
assignment than a news report. Which is what journalism has become,
predictably from what happened in 1994 -- or at least I was listening at
the time and predicted it with a great deal of horror -- so we don't
know what transpired except for a few hints and clues, but we have been
told how to feel about it and what to think. So then anyone who wants to
try to parse out the story can't find it in the article the claims
itself to be news. If you, as so many of us do, prefer to think for
yourself about what goes on in the world and thus have a rational basis
for your emotions based on that... Well, by now, I have to say the news
just gives me rabies. Not because of the news itself, since who knows
what it even is? It's the reporting!  That's what I keep coming back to
in trying to figure out anything intelligent or rational to add to the
discussion... Can't. Just get rabies from running through the article to
try to figure out if I can figure out what happened to talk about.

Okay, I'll go foam at the mouth and snap and snarl and lunge for
people's throat away from my keyboard. Sigh.

Tami

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:49 -0400, cheryl echevarria wrote: 
> Agree, these people that write the articles don't always put the correct 
> information or all the information. So unless we know for sure what 
> happened. We can only Speculate on it.
> 
> I was just giving information on being a sighted driver and what might have 
> transpired.
> 
> If either one of these people were intoxicated then it would be a criminal 
> act or involuntary man slaughter, because they were driving drunk.
> 
> We don't know the whole story.
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service 
> dog will recover
> 
> 
> > What bothers me is the man's lack of humanity, he was just something fun 
> > to look at each day. At least that's my take on the article.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> > Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:42 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his 
> > service dog will recover
> >
> > I used to be a legal secretary, again, we don't know everything that
> > happened.
> >
> > You hear it all the time on the news the elderly, blind, sighted, 
> > children,
> > being hit by cars, and they are not charged criminal charges.
> >
> >
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in
> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, 
> > Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian;his service
> > dog will recover
> >
> >
> > > I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this what they call involuntary man 
> > > slaughter?
> > >
> > > Rox
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 26 Aug 2011, at 08:15 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
> > > <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The man was also elderly.  It's like he had no value to anybody based 
> > > > on
> > > > how this is being handled.  Truly horrible. The driver should have 
> > > > been
> > > > charged with something, not murder, but something
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > > > Behalf Of Julie J.
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:53 AM
> > > > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > > > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his
> > > > service dog will recover
> > > >
> > > > Cheryl,
> > > >
> > > > Do you think no one would have been charged with anything if it had 
> > > > been
> > > > let's say the mayor's 8 year old daughter or maybe the owner of the 
> > > > bank
> > > > who has donated thousands of dollars to the local homeless shelter?  I
> > > > kind of think people would have been in a froth to place the blame on
> > > > someone.  People would want to know that justice had been served or
> > > > maybe it should be called revenge, but either way someone would have
> > > > been paying dearly for their mistake.  However it was a blind man, who
> > > > people just don't view in the same way as being a value to the
> > > > community.  Sure it was an accident, most things of this sort are.
> > > > Still it doesn't matter.  Even in accidents where no one gets hurt
> > > > generally someone gets a ticket for failure to yield or something.  If
> > > > nothing else pedestrians have the right of way and blind pedestrians
> > > > have even more protections, but not even those laws seem to have been
> > > > applied here.
> > > >
> > > > I can understand not charging the drivers with murder because that 
> > > > isn't
> > > > what happened, but what about some sort of negligence?  That seems
> > > > appropriate to me.
> > > >
> > > > JMHO
> > > > Julie
> > > >
> > > >> Julie it was an accident, from reading the story, that the first car
> > > >> should
> > > >> have slowed down when making a turn maybe couldn't swerve enough, the
> > > >> trucker who knows.
> > > >>
> > > >> If it was on purpose then they would have been arrested, I am sure 
> > > >> that
> > > >> the
> > > >> 2 were questioned at the accident. I mean police had to be called in
> > > >> situations like this.
> > > >>
> > > >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl Echevarria
> > > >> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > > >> 631-456-5394
> > > >> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located
> > > >> in
> > > >> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise& 
> > > >> Travel,
> > > >> Inc.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Julie Phillipson"<jbrew48 at verizon.net>
> > > >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > > >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian;his
> > > >> service
> > > >> dog will recover
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> that was my first thought too.  Why are there no charges the driver 
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> truck didn't see what happened right in front of him?  Give me a
> > > >>> brake!
> > > >>> Julie Phillipson
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> From: "Tracy Carcione"<carcione at access.net>
> > > >>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> > > >>> Users"
> > > >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:28 AM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his
> > > >>> service
> > > >>> dog will recover
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Of course neither driver has been charged.  I bet neither one ever
> > > >>>> will
> > > >>>> be.  It seems like killing a blind guy is a no-fault non-crime. Too
> > > >>>> bad,
> > > >>>> so sad, oh well.
> > > >>>> I'm really getting sick of it.
> > > >>>> Tracy
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Neighbors mourn death of blind pedestrian; his service dog will
> > > >>>>> recover
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> August 24, 2011
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-neighbors-mourn-pedestrian-blind-man-killed-wh
> > > >>>>> ile-service-dog-recovers-20110824,0,6132815.story
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> RICHMOND (WTVR)-
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Neighbors of a blind Richmond man are mourning his accidental 
> > > >>>>> death.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "He was one of the sweetest neighbors that you would want in your
> > > >>>>> community," said neighbor Dianna Harrison.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Seventy-four year old Dudley Mines will be missed. Neighbors say 
> > > >>>>> you
> > > >>>>> could
> > > >>>>> see him and his seeing eye dog Romeo walking their streets several
> > > >>>>> times
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>> day.  He was doing just that Monday night. He was crossing the 
> > > >>>>> road
> > > >>>>> at
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>> corner of Old Brook and Bellvue Road in North Richmond. A car
> > > >>>>> turning
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>> corner grazed Mines and knocked him over. Moments later a truck
> > > >>>>> would
> > > >>>>> make
> > > >>>>> the turn and run over Mines and his dog. Both drivers stopped to
> > > >>>>> help
> > > >>>>> but
> > > >>>>> it
> > > >>>>> was too late. The accident killed Mines and left Romeo with 
> > > >>>>> serious
> > > >>>>> injuries.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "We just want to thank God for the time he allowed him in our
> > > >>>>> lives,"
> > > >>>>> said
> > > >>>>> Harrison.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Neighbors are preparing for a vigil tomorrow night. Mines three
> > > >>>>> children
> > > >>>>> are
> > > >>>>> also involved in the planning. Signs of sympathy lay outside his
> > > >>>>> home
> > > >>>>> but
> > > >>>>> there's been sympathy shown in other ways too..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "There was really a coming together to help Romeo," said
> > > >>>>> Veterinarian
> > > >>>>> Nathan
> > > >>>>> Lippo.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The six year old black lab suffered cuts, bruising and a broken 
> > > >>>>> leg.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "With some pain medication some fluids and antibiotics he turned
> > > >>>>> around
> > > >>>>> pretty quickly became stable very quickly," said Lippo.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Wednesday the dog had surgery to secure his leg. Lippo says the
> > > >>>>> relationship
> > > >>>>> between a seeing eye dog and it's owner is a special one and is
> > > >>>>> sometimes
> > > >>>>> irreplaceable.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "These seeing eye dogs lived with owners for a long time so long
> > > >>>>> Romeo
> > > >>>>> has
> > > >>>>> lost a member of his family," said Lippo.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A funeral for Dudley Mines will be held on Saturday at 2pm Watkins
> > > >>>>> funeral
> > > >>>>> home. Neither driver has been charged in the incident. Police say
> > > >>>>> their
> > > >>>>> investigation is ongoing. Mines daughter says once he recovers she
> > > >>>>> plans
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> adopt Romeo.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
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