[nagdu] beginning to use a cane

[Mark J. Cadigan]

Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would assume 
so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to ride the commuter 
rail, something similar for the boat, just under 2 bucks for the subway, 
busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot. Parking at one of the T stations 
is also quite expensive. However, parking in the city can run up to $50 a 
day depending ware u are parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is 
$30 a day. Prices around hear are ridiculous.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane


> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mark J. Cadigan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>
> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only 15 
> cense
> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that now. It
> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my "Charley
> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>
>
>
> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire life, and
> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't because I 
> put
> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince my dad 
> to
> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the 
> reactions,
> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to believe.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>
>
>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as wwell!
>> LOL!
>>
>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks liked what
>> they saw!  Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>
>>
>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning!  I
>>> understand your feelings though.  I myself have never really cared about
>>> what everyone else thaught.  Yah, I was always kind of cocky that way. 
>>> I
>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981, when I
>>> gave my cane to a roommate.  He was really unnerved by everyones stares.
>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his keepper!
>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the stares.
>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope they like
>>> what they're seeing!  Especialy the girls!!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>
>>>
>>>> Buddy,
>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have people
>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are actually
>>>> visually impaired or blind.  That is the stigma of blindness talking!
>>>>
>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and had to
>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own.  Previously to that, I was
>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation at all
>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car.  If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school.  There was a
>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so I never
>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>
>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had never seen
>>>> one before!  The blind people I grew up with never used canes.  They
>>>> went sighted guide with family members.  At that time I could see quite
>>>> well although I was still legally blind.  I could get around pretty 
>>>> well
>>>> without any travel aids.  But at night, I had NO vision and needed a
>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for Halloween where 
>>>> I
>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>
>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and that I
>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past.  I did lose
>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and my
>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check!  I felt that I was
>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it.  With the cane,
>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem.  So, I realized that it 
>>>> was
>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>
>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can happen 
>>>> because
>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them in 
>>>> court
>>>> or to a police officer.  I think we just have to be more cautious and
>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>
>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made a
>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before audible
>>>> signals, folks!  With the cane, people didn't think this way anymore
>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I was
>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>
>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and their
>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up their
>>>> drivers license.  The driver gives up freedom and mobility.  the new
>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the crowd 
>>>> without
>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>
>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person and
>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get killed.
>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before using a
>>>> cane!
>>>>
>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found it very
>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that my eyes
>>>> couldn't give me.  Although I prefer using a dog, I still do use my 
>>>> cane
>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to wrestle a
>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who think
>>>>>it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, slow-witted, or
>>>>>any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they are
>>>>>blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less capable,
>>>>>less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) less of a
>>>>>human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted and
>>>>>[insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. Much
>>>>>better.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's drunk. I
>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't "need
>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking he's
>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one realized I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. Which 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis Pigmentosa.
>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went camping
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking stick. I
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very
>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. Thing 
>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 20/200
>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. I did
>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a 
>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm hurt a
>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or something.
>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a free one
>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one of 
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I have a
>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as the
>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or acquaintances
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental 
>>>>>>>>> midget
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate grabbing my
>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to this
>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know where to
>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw me
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If I'd 
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I was
>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any store.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I treat
>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups that
>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang onto
>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a cane
>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too small.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep the
>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap 
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage the 
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you get a 
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the other day
>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type of
>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is quite 
>>>>>>>>>> snug
>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left the
>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get into 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I had it
>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus station
>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is 
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a cane 
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another one 
>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as a back
>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be fine 
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It also has 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the face.I
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's cane???????
>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to this
>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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