[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Dec 26 01:41:24 UTC 2011


The song!  Its the Kingston Trio!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane


> Has what on your phone? 49 or their age? No way my age is going to be on 
> my phone.
> Cindy
>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> Hey, I'm 49 and I'll bet I'm the only one who has it on my phone!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>
>>
>>> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s or early 
>>> 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio.  So, yeah, anyone over 
>>> at least 55 would remember it.
>>>
>>> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are compared 
>>> to San Diego.  Sometimes I really have to look hard for a crowded place 
>>> to give Landon crowd practise.  Usually street fairs work well and 
>>> sometimes at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port and it is a 
>>> wonderful weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are in the mid 
>>> 70s during the summer. Most people drive here and don't walk - or rather 
>>> it is hard to walk some places because Southern California is so geared 
>>> to cars rather than walking, biking, or puplic transportation.
>>> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch out for 
>>> than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for Hillcrest - where 
>>> there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lol. True.  Funny how so many people from all over the country know 
>>>> about this song.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler" 
>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown every 
>>>>> day!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" 
>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would 
>>>>>> assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to 
>>>>>> ride the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just under 2 
>>>>>> bucks for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot. 
>>>>>> Parking at one of the T stations is also quite expensive. However, 
>>>>>> parking in the city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are 
>>>>>> parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day. Prices 
>>>>>> around hear are ridiculous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" 
>>>>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only 
>>>>>>> 15 cense
>>>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that 
>>>>>>> now. It
>>>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my 
>>>>>>> "Charley
>>>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire life, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't 
>>>>>>> because I put
>>>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince my 
>>>>>>> dad to
>>>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the 
>>>>>>> reactions,
>>>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
>>>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to 
>>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as 
>>>>>>>> wwell!
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks liked 
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> they saw!  Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning! 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> understand your feelings though.  I myself have never really cared 
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught.  Yah, I was always kind of cocky that 
>>>>>>>>> way. I
>>>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981, 
>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate.  He was really unnerved by everyones 
>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his 
>>>>>>>>> keepper!
>>>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the 
>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope they 
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> what they're seeing!  Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have 
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are 
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind.  That is the stigma of blindness 
>>>>>>>>>> talking!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and had 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own.  Previously to that, I 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation at 
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car.  If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school.  There 
>>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so I 
>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had never 
>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>> one before!  The blind people I grew up with never used canes. 
>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members.  At that time I could see 
>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind.  I could get around 
>>>>>>>>>> pretty well
>>>>>>>>>> without any travel aids.  But at night, I had NO vision and 
>>>>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for Halloween 
>>>>>>>>>> where I
>>>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and 
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past.  I did 
>>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and my
>>>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check!  I felt that I 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it.  With the cane,
>>>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem.  So, I realized that 
>>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can happen 
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them 
>>>>>>>>>> in court
>>>>>>>>>> or to a police officer.  I think we just have to be more cautious 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made a
>>>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before 
>>>>>>>>>> audible
>>>>>>>>>> signals, folks!  With the cane, people didn't think this way 
>>>>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and 
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up 
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> drivers license.  The driver gives up freedom and mobility.  the 
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the crowd 
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get 
>>>>>>>>>> killed.
>>>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before using 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found it 
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that 
>>>>>>>>>> my eyes
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't give me.  Although I prefer using a dog, I still do use 
>>>>>>>>>> my cane
>>>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to 
>>>>>>>>>> wrestle a
>>>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who 
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, 
>>>>>>>>>>> slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>>> any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they 
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less 
>>>>>>>>>>> capable,
>>>>>>>>>>> less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) 
>>>>>>>>>>> less of a
>>>>>>>>>>> human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Much
>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's 
>>>>>>>>>>>> drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "need
>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking 
>>>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> realized I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> camping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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