[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Dec 26 02:46:15 UTC 2011 

True, but I don't remember most of the words to that one. LOL.

On Dec 25, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Doug Parisian wrote:

> And, also, you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
> 
> 
>> Yup, you can't take a goldfish for a walk. LOL.
>> 
>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> 
>>> So you do recognize the song!  I have lots of oldies but strangies on my computer and phone!  Like, ""How much is that Doggie in the Window".  We had a lot of fun wiith that one at Pilot!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Oh Charlie and the MTA. Didn't like it that much except the part that says, "And through an open window she hands Charlie a sandwich as the train comes rumbling through." hahahaha.
>>>> Cindy
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The song!  Its the Kingston Trio!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has what on your phone? 49 or their age? No way my age is going to be on my phone.
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey, I'm 49 and I'll bet I'm the only one who has it on my phone!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s or early 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio.  So, yeah, anyone over at least 55 would remember it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are compared to San Diego.  Sometimes I really have to look hard for a crowded place to give Landon crowd practise.  Usually street fairs work well and sometimes at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port and it is a wonderful weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are in the mid 70s during the summer. Most people drive here and don't walk - or rather it is hard to walk some places because Southern California is so geared to cars rather than walking, biking, or puplic transportation.
>>>>>>>> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch out for than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for Hillcrest - where there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lol. True.  Funny how so many people from all over the country know about this song.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown every day!
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to ride the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just under 2 bucks for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot. Parking at one of the T stations is also quite expensive. However, parking in the city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day. Prices around hear are ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only 15 cense
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that now. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my "Charley
>>>>>>>>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire life, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't because I put
>>>>>>>>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince my dad to
>>>>>>>>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the reactions,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
>>>>>>>>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to believe.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as wwell!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks liked what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they saw!  Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand your feelings though.  I myself have never really cared about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught.  Yah, I was always kind of cocky that way. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981, when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate.  He was really unnerved by everyones stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his keepper!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope they like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they're seeing!  Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind.  That is the stigma of blindness talking!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own.  Previously to that, I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car.  If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school. There was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so I never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had never seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one before!  The blind people I grew up with never used canes. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members.  At that time I could see quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind.  I could get around pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any travel aids.  But at night, I had NO vision and needed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for Halloween where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past.  I did lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check!  I felt that I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it.  With the cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem.  So, I realized that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can happen because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them in court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to a police officer.  I think we just have to be more cautious and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before audible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signals, folks!  With the cane, people didn't think this way anymore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers license.  The driver gives up freedom and mobility. the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the crowd without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before using a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found it very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that my eyes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't give me.  Although I prefer using a dog, I still do use my cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to wrestle a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less capable,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) less of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. Much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't "need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one realized I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went camping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking stick. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm hurt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a free one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the other day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is quite snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I had it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a cane from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another one until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It also has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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