[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Dec 26 02:46:58 UTC 2011 

They ought take a rope and hang me. High from the highest tree. Woman won't you weep for me.

On Dec 25, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> Well, Dang Me!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at shaw.ca>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
> 
> 
>> And, also, you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 7:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>> 
>> 
>>> Yup, you can't take a goldfish for a walk. LOL.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So you do recognize the song!  I have lots of oldies but strangies on my computer and phone!  Like, ""How much is that Doggie in the Window".  We had a lot of fun wiith that one at Pilot!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Oh Charlie and the MTA. Didn't like it that much except the part that says, "And through an open window she hands Charlie a sandwich as the train comes rumbling through." hahahaha.
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The song!  Its the Kingston Trio!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has what on your phone? 49 or their age? No way my age is going to be on my phone.
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey, I'm 49 and I'll bet I'm the only one who has it on my phone!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:14 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s or early 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio.  So, yeah, anyone over at least 55 would remember it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are compared to San Diego.  Sometimes I really have to look hard for a crowded place to give Landon crowd practise.  Usually street fairs work well and sometimes at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port and it is a wonderful weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are in the mid 70s during the summer. Most people drive here and don't walk - or rather it is hard to walk some places because Southern California is so geared to cars rather than walking, biking, or puplic transportation.
>>>>>>>>> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch out for than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for Hillcrest - where there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Lol. True.  Funny how so many people from all over the country know about this song.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown every day!
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I would assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00 to ride the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just under 2 bucks for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and whatnot. Parking at one of the T stations is also quite expensive. However, parking in the city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day. Prices around hear are ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was only 15 cense
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like that now. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my "Charley
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire life, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't because I put
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to convince my dad to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe the reactions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to believe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as wwell!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks liked what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they saw!  Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand your feelings though.  I myself have never really cared about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught.  Yah, I was always kind of cocky that way. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981, when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate.  He was really unnerved by everyones stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his keepper!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope they like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they're seeing!  Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind.  That is the stigma of blindness talking!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own.  Previously to that, I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car.  If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school. There was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so I never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had never seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one before!  The blind people I grew up with never used canes. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members.  At that time I could see quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind.  I could get around pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any travel aids.  But at night, I had NO vision and needed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for Halloween where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past.  I did lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check!  I felt that I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it.  With the cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem.  So, I realized that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can happen because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them in court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to a police officer.  I think we just have to be more cautious and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before audible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signals, folks!  With the cane, people didn't think this way anymore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers license.  The driver gives up freedom and mobility. the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the crowd without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before using a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found it very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that my eyes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't give me.  Although I prefer using a dog, I still do use my cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to wrestle a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude, slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less capable,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly) less of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as blind. Much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he doesn't "need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one realized I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness. Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went camping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking stick. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain. Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is heavier. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at a family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm hurt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a free one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some mental midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they saw me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me. If I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs? I treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few backups that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the strap around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the other day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is quite snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I had it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me is getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a cane from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another one until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane as a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would be fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It also has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in the face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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