[nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
rhonda cruz
rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Mon Dec 26 03:31:35 UTC 2011
larry,
How much is that doggie, in the window.
The one with the waggleing, tail.
Ruff!
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:52:31 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>So you do recognize the song! I have lots of oldies but
strangies on my
>computer and phone! Like, ""How much is that Doggie in the
Window". We had
>a lot of fun wiith that one at Pilot!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>> Oh Charlie and the MTA. Didn't like it that much except the
part that
>> says, "And through an open window she hands Charlie a sandwich
as the
>> train comes rumbling through." hahahaha.
>> Cindy
>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>> The song! Its the Kingston Trio!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray"
<cindyray at gmail.com
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>> Has what on your phone? 49 or their age? No way my age is going
to be on
>>>> my phone.
>>>> Cindy
>>>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>> Hey, I'm 49 and I'll bet I'm the only one who has it on my
phone!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak"
>>>>> <linda.gwizdak at cox.net
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 4:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>> "Charley on the MTA" was a very popular song in the late 1950s
or
>>>>>> early 1960s - think it was sung by the Kingston Trio. So, yeah,
>>>>>> anyone over at least 55 would remember it.
>>>>>> It is amazing how much more crowded the streets in Boston are
compared
>>>>>> to San Diego. Sometimes I really have to look hard for a
crowded
>>>>>> place to give Landon crowd practise. Usually street fairs work
well
>>>>>> and sometimes at the Embarcadero when a cruise ship is in port
and it
>>>>>> is a wonderful weekend day when the sun shines and the temps are
in
>>>>>> the mid 70s during the summer. Most people drive here and don't
walk -
>>>>>> or rather it is hard to walk some places because Southern
California
>>>>>> is so geared to cars rather than walking, biking, or puplic
>>>>>> transportation.
>>>>>> Landon likes the crowds so he isn't bored and has alot to watch
out
>>>>>> for than a boring walk in the neighborhoods - except for
Hillcrest -
>>>>>> where there's hardly any people on the sidewalks.
>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] MBTA was Re: beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>> Lol. True. Funny how so many people from all over the country
know
>>>>>>> about this song.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>>>>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>> But, you can get off the thing and not have you're lunch thrown
>>>>>>>> every day!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:36 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>> Not having been around way back then, I wouldn't know, but I
would
>>>>>>>>> assume so, but, the T still costs a lot of money. Almost $7.00
to
>>>>>>>>> ride the commuter rail, something similar for the boat, just
under
>>>>>>>>> 2 bucks for the subway, busses, Greene line trolley, and
whatnot.
>>>>>>>>> Parking at one of the T stations is also quite expensive.
However,
>>>>>>>>> parking in the city can run up to $50 a day depending ware u are
>>>>>>>>> parking. At the parking lot next to my doarm it is $30 a day.
>>>>>>>>> Prices around hear are ridiculous.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>>>>>>>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't fifteen cents a lot of money back then though?
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>> If only the MTA now the MBTA or to us locals simply the T was
only
>>>>>>>>>> 15 cense
>>>>>>>>>> like it is in the song. It's up over $1.50 or something like
that
>>>>>>>>>> now. It
>>>>>>>>>> varies by station and line what they charge. I just lode up my
>>>>>>>>>> "Charley
>>>>>>>>>> Card" and refill it when it runs out.
>>>>>>>>>> To keep this on subject, I have always used my cane my entire
>>>>>>>>>> life, and
>>>>>>>>>> notice the varying reactions when I have it, and when I don't
>>>>>>>>>> because I put
>>>>>>>>>> it down to do something or whatnot. I am still trying to
convince
>>>>>>>>>> my dad to
>>>>>>>>>> walk around the city with one of my old canes just to observe
the
>>>>>>>>>> reactions,
>>>>>>>>>> but he refuses. However, he still says that people react to me
no
>>>>>>>>>> differently than they do to him. Somehow I find this hard to
>>>>>>>>>> believe.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Larry, I did finally return and met Charlie on the MTA as
>>>>>>>>>>> wwell!
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't care about the stares either - and yeah, hope folks
>>>>>>>>>>> liked what
>>>>>>>>>>> they saw! Nobody ever asked me for a date, either - sigh.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> You just didn't want to use the MTA for fear of never returning!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand your feelings though. I myself have never really
>>>>>>>>>>>> cared about
>>>>>>>>>>>> what everyone else thaught. Yah, I was always kind of cocky
>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> remember while attending Northern Michigan University in 1981,
>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> gave my cane to a roommate. He was really unnerved by everyones
>>>>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I followed him through the isles and folks thaught I was his
>>>>>>>>>>>> keepper!
>>>>>>>>>>>> When he gave me back my cane, he asked how I could stand all the
>>>>>>>>>>>> stares.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I told him I usually don't notice them but when I do, I hope
>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
>>>>>>>>>>>> what they're seeing! Especialy the girls!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] beginning to use a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is very true in that some folks would rather have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they are drunk rtather than someone seeing that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually impaired or blind. That is the stigma of blindness
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember back in the early 1970s when I moved to Boston and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel in an urban envirnment on my own. Previously to that, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always with someone because there was no public transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I rode everywhere in a car. If I did walk, it was on quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> residential streets going to or coming home from school. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping center nearby but on my side of a very busy street so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to cross that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Boston, my friends introduced me to a white cane - I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one before! The blind people I grew up with never used canes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> went sighted guide with family members. At that time I could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well although I was still legally blind. I could get around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any travel aids. But at night, I had NO vision and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. Previously, I NEVER went out at night except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halloween where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew the neighborhood very well and next to no car traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I started to use a cane, I did feel very self concious and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck out rather than blending in as I did in the past. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough vision to force the issue when a car almost ran me and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> roommate over - her dog did a great traffic check! I felt that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now in more danger without the cane than with it. With the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers can see that I had a vision problem. So, I realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to use the cane and it was good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS far as being a bigger target for crime, yeah, this can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the perp woould know the blind person could never identify them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in court
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to a police officer. I think we just have to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cautious and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of our surroundings than most sighted people do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prior to cane use, people would think I was an idiot if I made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crossing error because I couldn't see the signal - days before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> audible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> signals, folks! With the cane, people didn't think this way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>>>>>>>> outright. They most likely thought I was now an idiot BECAUSE I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the time someone needs to start using a cane and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistance to it isn't too unlike when a person has to give up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers license. The driver gives up freedom and mobility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane user gives up being able to melt into the rest of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowd without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to make him stick out like a sore thumb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using a cane is a decision that needs to be made by the person
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes a person needs a wake up call when they almost get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I hope that most people don't wait to get killed before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did finally do cane travel lessons under blindfold and found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to allowing my other senses to give me feedback that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my eyes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't give me. Although I prefer using a dog, I still do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use my cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly - especialy when grocery shopping when I have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrestle a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cart on and off the bus and the dog gets in the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas and Happy Honakka every one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can. There are some people out there, believe it or not, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's much preferable to be thought drunk, stoned, rude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-witted, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any number of other things, so long as no one thinks that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. After all, if you're blind, you are necessarily less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less self-reliant, less independent, less able, and (mostly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human being than if you are not. Better to be thought sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [insert any impairing condition] than to be thought of as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. Much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you guys explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wa talking to a guy who has RP. He said people think he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drunk. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told him a cane would solve that problem. He told me he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't "need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane", which I took to mean he's okay with people thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain. I don't get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tami Kinney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I did things kinda that way, too. So long as no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realized I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using it to compensate for tunnel vision and night blindness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, I did not have because I did *not* have Retinitis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pigmentosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denial, much, folks? /lol/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 04:22 PM, Brenda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting about using a tree branch. Growing up, we went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Dad. The first thing I would do would be find a hiking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not use it like you would a white cane, but it was still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would hike a lot and my stick would tell me the terrain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thing is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never have been allowed to use it at home since I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20/200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. Too bad. Brenda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2011 7:02 PM, Lea williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the thing about using a branch is that the branch is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavier. I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this once for a couple of weeks when I left my cane over at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house and they took that long to get it back to me. My arm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause a branch is heavier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will work, but I would rather use a broom stick or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sight for that one. If you could, you could request a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the NFB, it is strait, so if this is possible, get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as a back up. I rather have a folding one though. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ID one that I use. I love it better than the heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/11, Dan Weiner<dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just cut a limb from a tree, it will be just as useful as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane being a stick after all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Doug Parisian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a little better choice of friends and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquaintances
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alleviate the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had canes run over by cars, tripped over by some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental midget
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, and even attempted leadings by some unfortunate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grabbing my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stick by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's end but never stolen. Must be the company I keep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doug: Raising Cain when Able.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the person needed it? I met a family that was new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, had a member that was blind and wanted to know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane. I'm not sure they knew what a cane was until they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought "What a cool idea" and came over to talk to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'd had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another one on me, I'd have probably given them the one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were hoping/expecting you could just buy one at any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, why not buy a few backup canes that meet your needs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I treat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shoes, I have one I use but I also have a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backups that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meet my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs, a broken cane serves me no purpose so I don't hang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I wouldn't hang onto shoes I couldn't wear. Ditto for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too long, it'd be like hanging onto shoes that were too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this seems to happen a fair bit to you, can you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you hang onto like apurse? Or just keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strap around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrist so you are in contact with it when it isn't in use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened was wrong, I'm just not feeling the outrage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be feeling here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Brittney N. Mejico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is really awful who would do such a thing. Hope you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Some one stole my cane !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Mardi here. I went Christmas shopping the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one stole my white cane.I keep it in a leather holster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to my wheelchair when I am not using it. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite snug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it is impossible for it to have fallen out.When I left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed to the bus station,I reached for it so I could get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair bay when I got on the bus. It was not their! I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus so it disappeared somewhere between the bus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store.The only time I use it when I have my dog with me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the bus.This is the second time someone has stolen a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is extremely annoying as I can not afford to buy another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.I have an old broken one and a very long NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went out to pay a bill,I had to use the very Long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NFB cane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take the dog with me in Carla's car.This cane would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be fine if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking but is way to long for use with a wheelchair.It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mettle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tip which gets caught in every crevice and pokes me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the face.I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know why someone would want to steal a blind person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane???????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service dogs, now fake blind people? What is happening to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi and Shaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
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