[nagdu] Victim or Advocate?

Janice Toothman janice.toothman at verizon.net
Thu Dec 29 00:16:46 UTC 2011


Doug,
can you send the legislation regarding transgressions to me at 
janice.toothman at verizon.net.  I only recently joined the list and didn't 
see the first time you had sent it out.  Thanks.
Janice and Destiny


On 12/28/2011 6:18 PM, Doug Parisian wrote:
> Shannon, you scored, a double touchdown in fact with two two point 
> converts; you got my point.  Thank dog for someone not prone to 
> flag-waving hysteria.
>
> Gentle readers, I played a major part in specific legislation which 
> holds accountable and severely punishes transgressors.  A 
> transgression is considered to be any unsolicited interference with a 
> service animal, without the permission of the owner.  I did in fact 
> forward the complete copy to the list some months ago before 
> unsubscribing and there was little to know interest.
>
> Doug: my dog can lick your dog--and you too!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon Dyer" 
> <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Victim or Advocate?
>
>
>> I agree that there are people who decide to do something because they 
>> have the right to do it, but then, not act responsibly. The example 
>> Sheila gives of a dog wandering around a business is a good example 
>> of this. If we don't want to be denied access, we have to make sure 
>> that our guides are clean, quiet, and not disruptive to the goings-on 
>> of the establishment.
>>
>> As for people who like to play the victim, I didn't think this 
>> applied to people who were advocating for their rights. I think it's 
>> more that there are people who will find fault with every single 
>> thing that happens to them. You know, the kind of people for whom 
>> nothing is good enough. People who will have fifteen refusals in a 
>> year, living in a big city where most other people are lucky to have 
>> two or three.
>>
>> Shannon and Caroline
>> If you're a Pagan, Goddess-centered woman wishing to build community, 
>> write to
>> WomenOfTheGoddess-subscribe at quitelikely.com
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>
>>> Doug actually i think you are right on this one. I know of someone 
>>> that would take a guide dog and let it walk around because oh It 
>>> likes to see everyone but I was told by an employee of a buisness 
>>> that the dog took off out of the door and she had to go catch the 
>>> dog. They wondered why I didn't let my dog wander and I told them it 
>>> was improper behavior and not to accept improper behavior like that.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leiglan d
>>>
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