[nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious Organizations

[cheryl echevarria]

But in all respect, even though it does state this we all know people who are allowed to bring there dogs with them to church or temple, depending on the how extreme or reformed the status is, Muslims will not allow dogs in the mosques, many Muslims if they have a dog in there families may not have them in the house at all. Being married to one in the past, we allowed dogs in our home, but I wasn't blind then.
Same with the Jews, depending on the temple.
Same with the Knights of Columbus, etc.  They are the ones to decide whether or not to allow people to bring them. If the club has there own hall, they can decide whether or not to allow dogs into it. But again these organizations are private and unless you are a paid member then you shouldn't be at the organizations clubhouse unless it is opened to a public event.
But again that is at the own indiscretion.

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> From: blind411 at verizon.net
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:45:30 -0500
> Subject: [nagdu] Exemption for Private Clubs and Religious Organizations
> 
> Dear All,
>     The ADA specifically exempt private clubs and religious organizations 
> from the provisions of the Act. Here is what it says:
> 
> "The provisions of this title shall not apply to private clubs or 
> establishments exempted from coverage under title II of the Civil Rights Act 
> of 1964 (42
> U.S.C. 2000- a(e)) or to religious organizations or entities controlled by 
> religious organizations, including places of worship." (42 USC 12187)
> 
> 
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> 
> Marion Gwizdala
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Victim or Advocate?
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> 
> >I think personally that churches are a sort of strange arrangement. They 
> >accept the public, but churches includes all religious places of worship in 
> >the law, I would assume. I do not know this for a fact. But, for instance, 
> >you can't take a service animal into a mosque. If you can exempt a place of 
> >worship such as that, then you would have to probably exempt places of 
> >worship. Marion may be more knowledgeable about this than I am though. I 
> >agree with you though.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
> >
> >> Hi cindy unfortunately I wrote that post before checking it out thorougly 
> >> because I'm in agreement with you and marion about all of this. The only 
> >> thing I was speaking to was that a handler is responsible for his or her 
> >> dog's behavior which I thought that was what doug was speaking about. I 
> >> appoligize or the misunderstanding. I don't want service dogs barred from 
> >> anywhere the public is allowed. In some ways it bothers me that churches 
> >> are for example exempted from the law because the public is allowed in 
> >> them. To me it doesn't make sense.
> >>
> >> Sheila Leiglan d
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