[nagdu] Going out during training

[solsticesinger]

I don't even know what this means. Of course, maybe this is because I'm up 
way past when I should be, but I honestly don't understand what a city in 
Florida has to do with whether or not we go out during guide dog training.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training


> Peter, really?  Come on...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:36 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training
>
> Hello Roxi and everyone,
>
>    Then why bother getting the dog in the first place?
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going out during training
>
>
> I don't even see this as a guide dog program issue.  I'm an owner
> trainer, a very competent traveler, and dog handler.  If I got a dog
> from say, a breeder, and if it had foundation training, I'm still not
> going to take that dog out to a bunch of new places right away.  Even
> if it was proven that said dog could handle it and even if that dog
> had a track record of being in public and dealing with it appropriately.
> The dog is new to me and I'm new to it.  We need time to bond, to get
> to know one another, to learn one another's movements and moods and
> reactions to things.
> If I want to go out and I have a new dog, I leave the dog home in a
> crate.  I understand why the programs don't want handlers to leave
> with the dog until later in class.
> I of course think that the handler should be able to leave whenever
> there aren't training activities and as long as the dog's needs have
> been taken care of before leaving.
>
> You also have the issue of liability.  Until you graduate the program
> with that dog, it is still owned by the program and if something
> happens in public and you or someone else is hurt because the handler
> or the dog was not working appropriately, who's responsible for that?
> The program is, so it only makes sense for the program staff to watch
> you, at least for the first two weeks, or until they observe you and
> the dog communicating smoothly.
>
> Rox and the Botanical Barkers:
> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD. and Laveau Guide Dog, CGC.
> "The only problem with troubleshooting is, sometimes, trouble shoots
> back."
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